D&D 5E True Seeing vs Invisibility/Mind Blank

[Stalker0]

Mind Blank (or the amulet of proof against detection and location) both block divination spells from working on you. So lets take an invisible creature with that on them vs someone with true seeing.

1) Does this mean the True Seeing spell spell would not detect the invisible creature in this case?

2) Since a monster's true seeing ability is not a spell, would it be affected?

 

[Hriston]

1. Yes

2. No

 

[Croesus]

1. Yes

2. No

I have trouble with the idea that mind blank somehow blocks magical sight, but RAW, this is correct. All divination spells fail against the creature affected by the mind blank spell.

 

[neogod22]

I have trouble with the idea that mind blank somehow blocks magical sight, but RAW, this is correct. All divination spells fail against the creature affected by the mind blank spell.

A DM can change that.

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[neogod22]

Mind Blank (or the amulet of proof against detection and location) both block divination spells from working on you. So lets take an invisible creature with that on them vs someone with true seeing.

1) Does this mean the True Seeing spell spell would not detect the invisible creature in this case?

2) Since a monster's true seeing ability is not a spell, would it be affected?

Actually, mind blank only blocks spells that affect a,person's mind. And the amulet of proof against detection only hides you from magical sensors or keep you from being targeted by spells. True seeing does not target the character, you will be able to see them. With the amulet, it will be up to the DM whether or not it blocks true seeing.

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[Hriston]

I have trouble with the idea that mind blank somehow blocks magical sight, but RAW, this is correct. All divination spells fail against the creature affected by the mind blank spell.

It's an 8th level spell after all. It has got to be good for something!

 

[Stalker0]

Actually, mind blank only blocks spells that affect a,person's mind. And the amulet of proof against detection only hides you from magical sensors or keep you from being targeted by spells. True seeing does not target the character, you will be able to see them. With the amulet, it will be up to the DM whether or not it blocks true seeing.

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The relevant quotes:

Mind Blank

One willing creature you touch is immune to psychic damage, any effect that would sense its emotions or read its thoughts, divination spells, and the charmed condition.

Amulet of Proof against Detection and Location

You are hidden from divination magic. You cannot be targeted by such magic or seen through magical scrying sensors.


I think the amulet is on shaky ground on whether its targetted magic only, but mind blank does not mention targetting at all.

 

[neogod22]

The relevant quotes:

Mind Blank

One willing creature you touch is immune to psychic damage, any effect that would sense its emotions or read its thoughts, divination spells, and the charmed condition.

Amulet of Proof against Detection and Location

You are hidden from divination magic. You cannot be targeted by such magic or seen through magical scrying sensors.


I think the amulet is on shaky ground on whether its targetted magic only, but mind blank does not mention targetting at all.

So you guys really need to understand the difference between a coma and a period. A coma means a continuance of the same thought, and everything after pertains to everything before. Whereas a period means it's a new thought. With mind blank, everything pertains to protecting the individual from mind altering effects period. It also,protects the individual from remote scrying BUT, it does not protect the individual from being looked at. You people are supposed to be smart. I should not have to give you grammar lessons.

The second thing I unfortunately have to point too many times on these forums, PLAYERS are beholden to the rules, DMs are not.

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[neogod22]

The relevant quotes:

Mind Blank

One willing creature you touch is immune to psychic damage, any effect that would sense its emotions or read its thoughts, divination spells, and the charmed condition.

Amulet of Proof against Detection and Location

You are hidden from divination magic. You cannot be targeted by such magic or seen through magical scrying sensors.


I think the amulet is on shaky ground on whether its targetted magic only, but mind blank does not mention targetting at all.

I think we both are agreeing on,the same thing though.

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[Stalker0]

You people are supposed to be smart. I should not have to give you grammar lessons.

The second thing I unfortunately have to point too many times on these forums, PLAYERS are beholden to the rules, DMs are not.

That first statement above is exceptionally rude. Not everyone is a master of grammar. There are also several people on these forums for which English is not their primary language. If you wish to help someone understand a rule, than do so. If you feel their question is stupid and not worthy of an answer because they should "know better", then feel free to not answer and move on your merry way.

Second, I was not asking in the OP if the DM can override an effect. The answer is always yes to that. I was simply asking how to best interpret the RAW of this effect.