Turn or Rebuke outsiders?

Rechan

Adventurer
Is there a Domain or a Feat that lets me turn evil Outsiders (similar to how Fire domain priests can turn Water creatures)?

And if there is, and assuming I managed to take it, is there a way I could use the Sun domain's ability of Greater Turning against the outsider (rather than undead as it's keyed into)?
 

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I'm not sure about question 1.

However, the answer to question two is: No. In the case of elemental domains (air, earth, fire, and water) Turn/Rebuke Elemental is completely seperate from Turning/Rebuking Undead. Since the FAQ states that Turn/Rebuke Elemental cannot be used in conjunction with Divine feats, any new Turn/Rebuke ability would follow the precedence set by the graned powers of the elemental domains.
 

Rechan said:
Is there a Domain or a Feat that lets me turn evil Outsiders (similar to how Fire domain priests can turn Water creatures)?
I do believe a Complete Divine PRC has that capability

Rechan said:
And if there is, and assuming I managed to take it, is there a way I could use the Sun domain's ability of Greater Turning against the outsider (rather than undead as it's keyed into)?
I doubt Wotc would ever have printed anything so abusable.
 

frankthedm said:
I doubt Wotc would ever have printed anything so abusable.
You shouldn't have spoken so soon. ;) Never doubt the ability of WotC to make abusable combos.


Yes there is a feat that lets you turn outsiders:
srd said:
Planar Turning [Epic]
Prerequisites
Wis 25, Cha 25, ability to turn or rebuke undead.

Benefit
You can turn or rebuke outsiders as if they were undead. An outsider has effective turn resistance equal to half its spell resistance (round down). If you can turn undead, you turn (or destroy) all evil outsiders and rebuke (or command) all nonevil outsiders. If you can rebuke undead, you rebuke (or command) all evil outsiders and turn (or destroy) all nonevil outsiders.
Rechan said:
Is there a Domain or a Feat that lets me turn evil Outsiders (similar to how Fire domain priests can turn Water creatures)?
Notice the following portion of the planar turning feat, "You can turn or rebuke outsiders as if they were undead." Now, from the SRD:
srd said:
Sun Domain
Granted Power
Once per day, you can perform a greater turning against undead in place of a regular turning. The greater turning is like a normal turning except that the undead creatures that would be turned are destroyed instead.
Ergo, your granted power from the sun domain applies to the planar turning feat since "You can turn or rebuke outsiders as if they were undead."
Fun.
 

Thanks thorian, but that's a little out of my reach. I was looking for an option for mid levels.

Turn Anathema, from Complete Champion, lets you do this, but you can only turn, not rebuke or destroy. Still, not bad for what I'm trying to achieve.
 

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