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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RUMBLETiGER" data-source="post: 7922306" data-attributes="member: 6674868">Thanks for all the ideas!My character has been repeating the mantra all campaign, "Why do things mundanely when you can do it with magic!?"I hadn't considered the surrogate idea, and I really like it.  It might be most easy for the two wizards to just transfer over the genetic contributions into a willing mother.  I might go that route.As I've been pondering this, I've come up with the following so far. This assumes we make it up to 9th level spells, which is likely.1. Create Greater Demiplane with the minor positive energy trait, faster time trait or timeless (whichever allows the Clone spell to happen better), with a portal to the Positive Energy Plane. Make the demiplane as womb-like and meeting the criteria for a "Lab"referenced in the Clone spell.2. Cast the Clone spell, using material from both parents instead of one. Otherwise, do the spell as written. Do this in the demiplane. Figure if the process allows for creating an infant body instead of an adult one.3. Planar Adaptation or similar spell to protect from the harmful effects of the Positive Energy Plane.4. Locate Creature/Locate Object, whichever spell would succeed in finding a Pre-Incarnate Soul.5. Figure a way to transfer the Pre-Incarnate Soul into the living, inert baby body.Some of these steps aren't guaranteed to have the results I want them to have.  Using Clone to mix 2 people and make a baby body, finding a way to get a Pre-Incarnate Soul into the living, inert body.  For these steps, I'd have both Wizards cast Wish to aid the processes in being more likely to work the way we'd ant them to, and Blood Money for the material component of the Wish spell (and other spells) to add a dash of the biological contribution to the process.</blockquote>

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