Types and Subtypes question

[Alzrius]

Thats why I picked Rakshasa because they are in fact native outsiders. Iscariots original example also is a native outsider that was not born on the prime and in fact may never have been to the prime not knowing the details of the campaign

D'oh! I forgot that rakshasas are Native Outsiders already!

Okay, in that case, forget what I said. If the example is a Native Outsider who is born on another plane, I'd say where they're born doesn't matter. Simply by virtue of what they are overrides something like where they're actually born. Native Outsiders have a strong connection to the Prime due to their very nature, and that'll hold true anywhere.

 

[Prism]

D'oh! I forgot that rakshasas are Native Outsiders already!

Okay, in that case, forget what I said. If the example is a Native Outsider who is born on another plane, I'd say where they're born doesn't matter. Simply by virtue of what they are overrides something like where they're actually born. Native Outsiders have a strong connection to the Prime due to their very nature, and that'll hold true anywhere.

If you say that the native subtype rules override the extraplanar rules then that would hold. However, it does create a situation where a human who is born and lives in hell is native to hell and extraplanar on the prime, whereas a rakshasa born in hell is native to the prime and extraplanar while on its home plane hell

I suppose what I am getting at is could a native outsider actually be native to its home plane (where it lives) and the prime (due to its subtype) at the same time. Is there any rule that stops something being native to 2 planes simultaneously

This would be easier if native outsider was in fact called mortal outsider to represent its need to sleep and eat, and it wasn't so hung up on the prime plane which not all campaigns even use

 

[Alzrius]

If you say that the native subtype rules override the extraplanar rules then that would hold. However, it does create a situation where a human who is born and lives in hell is native to hell and extraplanar on the prime, whereas a rakshasa born in hell is native to the prime and extraplanar while on its home plane hell

I suppose what I am getting at is could a native outsider actually be native to its home plane (where it lives) and the prime (due to its subtype) at the same time. Is there any rule that stops something being native to 2 planes simultaneously

This would be easier if native outsider was in fact called mortal outsider to represent its need to sleep and eat, and it wasn't so hung up on the prime plane which not all campaigns even use

There aren't any hard and fast rules about this. I would say that if your creature type always normally has the Native subtype, then that's what you have too, and are considered Extraplanar everywhere except the Prime, simply for ease of reference. Otherwise you'd have a situation where you would, depending on how you look at it, be dual-native to two planes...or native to no planes at all.

If you don't have the Native subtype, then yes, I suppose your native plane is whatever plane you're born on.