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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tuxgeo" data-source="post: 6954677" data-attributes="member: 61026">I would also like to know that, as I'm not the main person who brought up the idea of getting an urban druid build in the UA articles. The best I can do it to hazard guesses. My primary guess would be that a Cleric of Civilization would have some deity of civilization to refer to, and possibly some revered doctrine or dogma to spout, while an Urban Druid would only refer to the actual conditions in the cities and how those conditions relate to the natural order of the world -- but that's all roleplaying, not mechanics. As far as mechanics are concerned, the central Druid-only ability is Wildshape, which would have limitations in cities. (A large dog might be unremarkable in a city, but an equally large cat could be cause for serious concern, and for calls to the animal-control authorities.) As far as the overall thrust of a build goes, a Cleric of Civilization would be more aligned with promoting the activities of civilization, while an Urban Druid would be more about counteracting those, and maintaining one's connection to nature even though located in a city. They could be enemies more than rivals, in that sense.</blockquote>