trentonjoe
Explorer
How do Umber Hulk's NOT surprise their victim? Should they party get a WIS (survival) check or something to avoid surprise? Any other ideas?
D&D 5E Umber Hulk and surprise
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SilverfireSage
Explorer
What do you mean? They still have to sneak to avoid being noticed. Just use the standard Perception vs Stealth rules.
trentonjoe
Explorer
I don't know, I don't think the standard rules apply in this case. Umber Hulk's are effectively invisible and there is like no way to detect them from 10'-20' under ground. The Umber Hulk +1 stealth roll seems a little lame in this case.
Tony Vargas
Legend
Presumably, clawing through solid stone isn't all that quiet or inconspicuous, especially as you get close to breaking the surface.
miniaturehoarder
First Post
If having a burrow speed was meant to cause an auto-surprise, I think that would have been accounted for in the CR'ing rules. Only mode of movement that affects CR is a ranged attacker which has flight before CR 10.
If the DM feels a burrower happens to be in an advantageous situation, there is always the advantage / disadvantage system, but it should require more than having a burrow speed. Being able to get close before combat can even start is a solid boon. Adding in also getting a surprise round of clawing and chomping is a bit much.
If the DM feels a burrower happens to be in an advantageous situation, there is always the advantage / disadvantage system, but it should require more than having a burrow speed. Being able to get close before combat can even start is a solid boon. Adding in also getting a surprise round of clawing and chomping is a bit much.
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