Unbelievable!

[Rechan]

I'm sure i saw suggestions of an Undermountain set coming out next year.

Yep! Three full adventures, 80 encounter areas, and a "Random Dungeon Generator" for when players go off-map.

Also in terms of "mega dungeon", there's Tomb of Horrors, which had 4 separate dungeons. Granted it spans the level spectrum, so it's not in one complex.

Although honestly I think it'd be fairly easy to create your own megadungeon by stapling a few adventures' dungeons together. For instance, I think Pyramid of Shadows is crap as an adventure, but tearing out some of its areas and attaching them to a pre-existing dungeon would work so well. Same with Thunderspire Labyrinth - the Well of Demons would make a great chamber in some adventure.

 

[GameDoc]

I am starting to think that the default Points of Light setting is the only official setting that will give us any Greyhawk elements.

We have Greyhawk gods in the pantheon - Pelor, Vecna, Lolth, Moradin, etc. (recall FR lifted their demihuman deities right out of Greyhawk). We've seen the Tomb of Horrors placed in PoL. The last season of Encounters places Evard in the Nentir Vale. I am assuming Mordenkainen's Magnificent Emporium places the titular character in PoL. And the "Kas and Vecna" article Dragon that went up this week not only links the Tomb of Horrors to that legacy, it says the events happened long ago "in a land called the Flanaess" but still seems to be a "default setting" article.

I think they're carving out the iconic elements of Greyhawk and dropping them into the PoL setting. If an individual DM wants to go the extra mile and convert it all the way to the classic Greyhawk setting, I think WotC will say "Cool, go for it.". Their intent was for PoL to be a loosely defined, customizable background.

But, I don't expect to see a formal Greyhawk setting published as distinct from PoL.

 

[GameDoc]

I think that's also their approach to Planescape, Spelljammer, and Ravenloft - make them possible as an element of the default setting and if a DM wants a campaign to focus on one specifically, he has the tools to do it.

Sigil and spelljamming ships were introduced in Manual of the Planes, as were the "Domains of Dread" concept. Gloomwrought has placed the Vistani in the default setting (the Kas and Vecna article is narrated by a Vistani).

I imagine the Ravenloft setting, if still in the works, will place Strahd's early life in the PoL setting and Ravenloft as his current domain in the Shadowfell.

 

[Rechan]

I think that's also their approach to Planescape, Spelljammer, and Ravenloft - make them possible as an element of the default setting and if a DM wants a campaign to focus on one specifically, he has the tools to do it.

Sigil and spelljamming ships were introduced in Manual of the Planes, as were the "Domains of Dread" concept. Gloomwrought has placed the Vistani in the default setting (the Kas and Vecna article is narrated by a Vistani).

I imagine the Ravenloft setting, if still in the works, will place Strahd's early life in the PoL setting and Ravenloft as his current domain in the Shadowfell.

They have introduced various Ravenloft domains in Dragon as areas within the Shadowfell, IIRC.

 

[Gadodel]

Undermountain as in FR? Or a whole other new one?

 

[bargle0]

Undermountain as in FR? Or a whole other new one?

Undermountain as in FR. As in Halaster's hell-hole in Waterdeep.

I'm really looking forward to it. I may try and run an LFR-compatible home game if it's good.

 

[bastrak]

Given the nuking of FR in 4e I shudder to think what they might do to Greyhawk.

 

[Greg K]

Given the nuking of FR in 4e I shudder to think what they might do to Greyhawk.

This (And regarding someone else's post about the use of GH deities in PoL, I was, really, disappointed by their inclusion outside of GH. The designers should have came up with all new original deities for their PoL setting).

 

[drothgery]

Given the nuking of FR in 4e I shudder to think what they might do to Greyhawk.

On the other hand, Eberron and Dark Sun fared quite well in the transition. And it's almost traditional to blow up the Realms with an edition change.

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

And haven't they nuked Greyhawk a few times already, too?

Not that I ever saw anything that made Greyhawk a more engaging setting than FR or Birthright or Eberron...but of course that's IMO.

Brad