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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9499959" data-attributes="member: 93670">Yup to pretty much all of this but I think there's an outlook that causes it to make sense logically.Wotc is still clinging to the &quot;MaGiC iTeMs ArE 'oPtIoNaL' <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="😜" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61c.png" title="Winking face with tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:" data-shortname=":stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="😜" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61c.png" title="Winking face with tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:" data-shortname=":stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="👉" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f449.png" title="Backhand index pointing right&nbsp; &nbsp; :point_right:" data-shortname=":point_right:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="👉" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f449.png" title="Backhand index pointing right&nbsp; &nbsp; :point_right:" data-shortname=":point_right:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />&quot; rather than admitting the math needs to properly support them with churn &amp; allow things like a higher pointbuy for games not using them after reworking the math.&nbsp;I haven't seen the DMG &quot;common&quot; items &amp; from one of the videos talking up the cloak of billowing feel safe in assuming that they continue the trend of being completely underwhelming.&quot;Common&quot; magic items should be a step down from uncommon items but still basically the same function, single use scrolls potions &amp; trinkets.&nbsp; &quot;Uncommon&quot; items should be (generally) similar returns but multiple charges in the item without the everlasting recharge currently the default in 5e.&nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;Rare&quot; items should be small always on bonuses &amp; possibly minor charged items with some form of self replenishing pool of charges.&nbsp; Moving to &quot;Very Rare&quot; &amp; &quot;Legendary&quot; could have larger always on bonuses,&nbsp; charged items with more significant charge recovery, or some combo of any of the other rarities.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9499959, member: 93670"] Yup to pretty much all of this but I think there's an outlook that causes it to make sense logically. Wotc is still clinging to the "MaGiC iTeMs ArE [I]'oPtIoNaL' 😜😜👉👉[/I]" rather than admitting the math needs to properly support them with churn & allow things like a higher pointbuy for games not using them after reworking the math. I haven't seen the DMG "common" items & from one of the videos talking up the cloak of billowing feel safe in assuming that they continue the trend of being completely underwhelming. "[U][I]Common[/I][/U]" magic items [B][U][I]should[/I][/U][/B] be a step down from uncommon items but still basically the same function, single use scrolls potions & trinkets. "[U][I]Uncommon[/I][/U]" items should be (generally) similar returns but multiple charges in the item without the everlasting recharge currently the default in 5e. "[I]Rare[/I]" items should be [I]small[/I] always on bonuses & [I]possibly[/I] minor charged items with some form of self replenishing pool of charges. Moving to "Very Rare" & "Legendary" could have larger always on bonuses, charged items with more significant charge recovery, or some combo of any of the other rarities. [/QUOTE]

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