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<blockquote data-quote="ezo" data-source="post: 9500805" data-attributes="member: 7037866">You can just use my username, I don't mind. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />And you are no where near correct in what I was saying. If you were referring to someone else, fine, I suppose you could be...However, I, for one, never said I &quot;want the entire world outside of the dungeon to be a void of magic&quot; or anything like it. I don't recall anyone else saying anything like that either. Nor do I want dungeons &quot;flooded with magic&quot;, and again I don't recall anyone else claiming that, either. You are exaggerating my statements and shifting goalposts at the same time.Correct me, if I am wrong?Yes, I said that. And I know others think like that as well, feeling +1 items, etc. are patently boring and so on.Look at the costs for magical items in AD&amp;D compared to 5E. Costs for &quot;minor&quot; items is typically 5x to 10x the cost in AD&amp;D.We all (I hope) know Monty Haul games were common enough in AD&amp;D, and I never claimed otherwise was the base assumption. What I said was you did not have the prevalence of magic items in an AD&amp;D game world as 5E implies exists in the modern D&amp;D world. By comparison, magic was rarer. We weren't buying potions of healing on the standard equipment list in AD&amp;D that I recall.Sometimes yes, sometimes no. They certainly would have the money to make it more likely, but it was never a certainty.This is where you are incorrect IMO and IME.I can certainly have magic ITEMS (which, by the way, this was always supposed to be about magic ITEMS, not magical classes or anything else magical--only ITEMS... at some point you shifted the goalposts) be rare and not common in the world as a whole. No one might craft them currently, and items found are from the lost ages, etc.--yes, typically in (shocker!) dungeons! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="ezo, post: 9500805, member: 7037866"] You can just use my username, I don't mind. :) And you are no where near correct in what I was saying. If you were referring to someone else, fine, I suppose you could be... However, I, for one, never said I "want the entire world outside of the dungeon to be a void of magic" or anything like it. I don't recall anyone [I]else[/I] saying anything like that either. Nor do I want dungeons "flooded with magic", and again I don't recall anyone else claiming that, either. You are exaggerating my statements and shifting goalposts at the same time. Correct me, if I am wrong? Yes, I said that. And I know others think like that as well, feeling +1 items, etc. are patently boring and so on. Look at the costs for magical items in AD&D compared to 5E. Costs for "minor" items is typically 5x to 10x the cost in AD&D. We all (I hope) know Monty Haul games were common enough in AD&D, and I never claimed otherwise was the base assumption. What I said was you did not have the prevalence of magic items in an AD&D game world as 5E implies exists in the modern D&D world. By comparison, magic was rarer. We weren't buying potions of healing on the standard equipment list in AD&D that I recall. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. They certainly would have the money to make it more likely, but it was never a certainty. This is where you are incorrect IMO and IME. I can certainly have magic ITEMS ([I]which, by the way, this was always supposed to be about magic ITEMS, not magical classes or anything else magical--only ITEMS... at some point you shifted the goalposts[/I]) be rare and not common in the world as a whole. No one might craft them currently, and items found are from the lost ages, etc.--yes, typically in (shocker!) dungeons! :) [/QUOTE]

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