Unconverted Original D&D creatures


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From Supplement IV: Gods, Demigods, Heroes:
  • Black Snakes - Magical Beast
  • Brylukas - Monstrous Humanoid
  • Octopus Demon - Aberration*
  • Yag-Kosha - Monstrous Humanoid
  • Fighting Tigers of Tang - Animal*
  • Delmains - Outsider*
  • Shen Shu - Outsider
From Up the Garden Path (ST1):
  • IffanbutT - Elemental
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Juggernaut, Stone is in Monster Manual II.

How are Kraken (Hyperborean) and Giant Owl (Melnibonian) different from the creatures in Monster Manual?


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Thanks -- I've snipped the Stone Juggernaut from the list.

The Hyborean Kraken "is a giant octopus which is able to live on the land. This creature must be called from another dimension
where it is imprisoned, and is constantly trying to leave. It feeds on human souls/energy levels and if the victim doesn't make his or her magic saving throw all his levels are drained."

The Melnibonian Giant Owl doesn't seem much different to any other Giant Owl, so I'll cull that from the list.


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Traianus said:
Protean, Local (Giant): This is virtually Identical to the Giant Amoeba
Agreed. And I see that the Astral Protean appears in the Epic Level Handbook as the Hagunemnon, so I've removed both proteans from the list.

Traianus said:
The Quarg is a Winter Wolf.
Good catch. Looks like Quargs, Ice Wolves and Winter Wolves are all the same.

Traianus said:
A Xytar is basically a Camerilla
Or a Camarilla is Xytar :D.

It's called a Xytar in the original Creature Catalogue (AC9) [1986], then a Camarilla in City of the Gods (DA3) [1987], a Xytar again in the updated Creature Catalog (DMR2) [1993] and a Xytar again in the Mystara Monstrous Compendium Appendix [1994].

Interestingly, the Consolidated Creature Conversion Index over on the Vaults of Pandius treats them as two different creatures. But the descriptions of the two are very similar, so I've taken the Xytar off my list.

Thanks for all of the updates!

An an aside, I wonder why AC9 and DMR2 used two different spellings of Catalog(ue)?


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Mortis said:
I didn't have all the sources available to check so I was just going by name. I guess I should amalgamate them.
It's still a really, really useful index. Indexing the OD&D creatures was much easier than most of the other creatures, thanks to the CCCI :).


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Gothenem said:
I daresay that a wereseal would be made with the Lycanthrope Template being applied to a Seal (Forstburn or Stromwrack)
Mortis said:
Or use the selkie from MMII.
Ah, but neither of those is officially an update of the wereseal, so that'll have to stay on the list for now :p.


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I've posted a conversion of the wereseal in the homebrews thread.

I'll be posting it to the WotC Mystara boards (and thus on to the Vaults) when its back up.



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Based on a quick look, the Elemasters don't seem to be the same as the Elemental Rulers, so I've left them in. Updated the rest though, thanks.

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