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Unearthed Arcana: Barbarian and Monk
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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7788019" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>Nope and nope. </p><p></p><p>The idea that sentient golems are inherently high magic, gonzo, or robots, is completely preposterous. I could maybe see an extremely broad usage of robot, but it would be so broad that it's only usefulness would seem to be to misrepresent the thing in question. Star Trek's Data is a robot. He is mechanical, technological, non-living. Even then, "robot" is an extreme reduction of what he actually is. </p><p></p><p>Warforged aren't any of those things. They're organisms of living wood and stone that metal armor gets attached to, with as much evidence of a soul as any mortal being in Eberron has. The only element that reaches toward "robot" is the fact that they are constructed by other mortals, and occasionally bad fanart that presents a clockwork creature and calls it a warforged. </p><p></p><p>As for gonzo, dragons are a hell of a lot more gonzo than anything on the cover you're referencing. Fireball is gonzo, if that cover is gonzo. The only way out of gonzo territory in dnd is to not use most of the MM, or half the PC classes, if that cover is gonzo. </p><p></p><p>And again, if you don't want to see the difference between high magic and common magic, that's fine, but the difference is significant regardless. </p><p></p><p>And there is nowhere in eberron where a wild soul barbarian could reasonably be common, without tweaking the setting. I guess i should clarify, in case someone feels pedantic, that by in Eberron, I mean on the actual world of Eberron. A creature from Thelanis, or one of the other planes, might be reasonable as just a normal member of their tribe. But even in the Demon Wastes, a Fey Spire, or in Khyber, they'd only fit in the setting as either a one-off confluence of planar magic, probably via a manifest zone, or a known but rare event even within that space. "Not unheard of but still rare" is about as common as such a thing could get, just like PCs in general, mid teir or higher spellcasters, etc. The vast majority of people in Eberron are just folks, with no magic of their own.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 7788019, member: 6704184"] Nope and nope. The idea that sentient golems are inherently high magic, gonzo, or robots, is completely preposterous. I could maybe see an extremely broad usage of robot, but it would be so broad that it's only usefulness would seem to be to misrepresent the thing in question. Star Trek's Data is a robot. He is mechanical, technological, non-living. Even then, "robot" is an extreme reduction of what he actually is. Warforged aren't any of those things. They're organisms of living wood and stone that metal armor gets attached to, with as much evidence of a soul as any mortal being in Eberron has. The only element that reaches toward "robot" is the fact that they are constructed by other mortals, and occasionally bad fanart that presents a clockwork creature and calls it a warforged. As for gonzo, dragons are a hell of a lot more gonzo than anything on the cover you're referencing. Fireball is gonzo, if that cover is gonzo. The only way out of gonzo territory in dnd is to not use most of the MM, or half the PC classes, if that cover is gonzo. And again, if you don't want to see the difference between high magic and common magic, that's fine, but the difference is significant regardless. And there is nowhere in eberron where a wild soul barbarian could reasonably be common, without tweaking the setting. I guess i should clarify, in case someone feels pedantic, that by in Eberron, I mean on the actual world of Eberron. A creature from Thelanis, or one of the other planes, might be reasonable as just a normal member of their tribe. But even in the Demon Wastes, a Fey Spire, or in Khyber, they'd only fit in the setting as either a one-off confluence of planar magic, probably via a manifest zone, or a known but rare event even within that space. "Not unheard of but still rare" is about as common as such a thing could get, just like PCs in general, mid teir or higher spellcasters, etc. The vast majority of people in Eberron are just folks, with no magic of their own. [/QUOTE]
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