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<blockquote data-quote="Leatherhead" data-source="post: 7824453" data-attributes="member: 53176"><p><strong><em><u>Twilight Domain.</u></em></strong></p><p>Not intended for use with bad teenage or problematic adult romance novels.</p><p></p><p><strong>Domain Spells</strong></p><p>This spell list is full of MVPs. I don't think I have ever seen such a stacked list. I figure the only reason <em>Leomund’s tiny hut</em> is on there, is because<em> Catnap</em> isn't in the PHB, but that's a heck of a trade up.</p><p></p><p><strong>Bonus Proficiencies </strong></p><p>A martial Cleric eh? That doesn't strike me as totally congruent with the whimsical and ethereal flavoring of "twilight." On the plus side, it totally gives this Cleric a niche that no other Cleric really covers: The Archer.</p><p>Too bad there still aren't any archery compatible <em>Booming Blade</em> type spells.</p><p></p><p><strong>Eyes of Night</strong></p><p>There would have been some joke about humans and halfings finally being able to "see the light" here, but did you know there are 20+ official races that don't have access to darkvision now? We have come a long way from the PHB where seeing in the dark was normal. Anyway, this is the reason they don't have <em>Dancing Lights. </em>Add on that Unlimited range and group-share and you have a solid ability.</p><p></p><p><strong>Vigilant Blessing </strong></p><p>This is kind of weirdly worded, it seemingly lasts forever until used. But it's hard to knock advantage on Initiative which can be passed off to someone else as needed.</p><p></p><p><strong>Twilight Sanctuary </strong></p><p>1d8 thp every turn, even on everyone, is kind of meh. Especially considering it doesn't scale. Ending the Charmed or Frightened conditions at will could just save you from a TPK. But the real draw here is the synergies of creating your own dim-light bubble, which is mostly just inflicting disadvantage on your enemies attacks with impuity until you get the next ability. One question that absolutely needs to be answered: How does this interact with the <em>Darkness</em> spell?</p><p></p><p><strong>Steps of the Brave </strong></p><p>A strangely grouped package of abilities. Resistance to fear is almost a ribbon considering there are ways to become immune to it. The real draw here, of course, is the flight speed. Creating your Twilight bubble, then flying up into the air to rain destruction on your foes has never been so safe! And they call this ability "brave" hah.</p><p></p><p><strong>Divine Strike </strong></p><p>Psychic damage is actually a pretty good element. The hidden synergy here is that it applies to any weapon, including the longbow, which you conveniently have proficiency in. Granted +1d8 damage isn't exactly top of the line in terms of damage scaling, but expect this to be an integral part of the new FOTM Hexbow builds, should this subclass make it to print.</p><p></p><p><strong>Midnight Shroud </strong></p><p>And the capstone ability is giving your entire party Devil's Sight. Yeah, that's really damn underwhelming for a capstone. Even if it is the logical upgrade to your twilight bubble, if you were trying to exploit your <em>Darkness</em> to this degree, you would have already been a Warlock by now. And if you weren't going for that angle you should be casting some higher level spells instead, like maybe one of those 9th level spells you just got access too! This is a level 14 capstone, at best.</p><p></p><p><u>Thoughts</u></p><p><em>Shadow of Moil</em> is the only spell that turns normal light into dim light. Other than that, there is only <em>Darkness</em> for your light dampening needs. There really should be a few more low level spells capable of doing this kind of thing.</p><p></p><p>That aside, this subclass is stacked like pancakes. I am in awe of the synergies and incidental power plays it can perform.</p><p></p><p><strong><em><u>Circle of Wildfire </u></em></strong></p><p>You can tell WotC lives on the West Coast. My lungs still remember the 2018 wildfire season.</p><p></p><p><strong>Circle Spells </strong></p><p>You get a bunch of burn. Also <em>Raise Dead</em> for some reason. But not any new healing spells, despite what the subclass would insist it's themes are.</p><p></p><p><strong>Summon Wildfire</strong></p><p>Yet another way to use your Wildshapes for something other than turning into a wolf. This time you get your own wickerman who explodes when they pop onto the battlefield. Also, it's the latest in a long line of pets that are better pets than the Beastmaster's. Poor, poor Beastmaster, one day Rex will have their day (well, if they ever bite the bullet on their "no revisions" policy that is.) Anyway, the darkhorse ability of this hunk of burning love is it's offensive teleport. Not only can you get your party set up just how they like, you can add a bit of injury to the insult you just served on the enemy.</p><p></p><p><strong>Enhanced Bond</strong></p><p>Your fire damage and healing powers are boosted by 1d8 when your Wildfire is out. Also your Wildfire can be the origin for any spell that doesn't have a range of Self. You could have it toss out <em>Thunderclap</em> or <em>Poison Spray</em> (hah) for you. Maybe have it <em>Stone Shape </em>the floor directly beneath it to make a hole in the ground. And I guess have it <em>Cure Wounds</em> at a distance if you are one of those people who didn't pick <em>Healing Word</em> for some reason. This ability was a lot more exciting when I read it as the exact opposite kind of range limitation.</p><p></p><p><strong>Flames of Life</strong></p><p>You get a reaction based Healing power. Kind of nifty. Also useful for trolling someone because it can be told to burn instead of heal.</p><p></p><p><strong>Blazing Endurance </strong></p><p>Now <u>this</u> is a capstone. You strait up ignore getting knocked out once per day, and instead "come back" with a truckload of temp HP, and you get to burn the sod who had the audacity to make an attempt on your life in the first place! Thematic, powerful, and fun~!</p><p></p><p></p><p><u>Thoughts</u></p><p>This is begging for the name "Circle of the Phoenix". I still maintain some kind of "fire-eating" ability would fit into this subclass snugly, maybe in place of Flames of Life. Also the healing half of this subclass isn't bold enough. Sure there is a bump to healing and a "free" heal, but it feels like it takes a backseat to the burning half of the subclass. At any rate, this opens the door to other elemental themed druids.</p><p></p><p><strong><em><u>Onomancy </u></em></strong></p><p>What's in a name? Too much and too little it seems.</p><p></p><p><strong>Bonus Proficiencies </strong></p><p>Well it's a ribbon. At least you get another language that might be useful for learning all those names.</p><p></p><p><strong>Extract Name</strong></p><p>A one turn charm that can give you the targets True Name. Which is supposedly the cornerstone of this subclass, what allows it to "fuel" the other powers. Unfortunately, you only have one shot at this,<em> ever.</em> Also it's a Wisdom save for some reason despite Charisma fitting more. This ability just doesn't feel right. And that's not just because it practically assured to fail against any target where you would actually need it and thus shut down half of your subclass powers. A saving throw? This couldn't have been a blood price or something else costly but actually possible?</p><p></p><p><strong>Fateful Naming</strong></p><p>Free <em>Bless</em> is really nice. At level 2 anyway. All you need is your name, or your familiar's name, or perhaps a Fighter party member who you managed to use Extract Name on. At later levels, you have better things to concentrate on.</p><p></p><p><strong>Resonant Utterance </strong></p><p>Oh joy, it's not-metamagic, we all know how well that went over the last time it was tried on a Wizard subclass <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f910.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":censored:" title="Censored :censored:" data-smilie="14"data-shortname=":censored:" />. This time it's limited to half of your Wizard level per day, though I doubt you will ever run up against that limit. You start off knowing only two. So you better pick wisely. And one final rule, they don't work on any spell that doesn't cost a spell slot, which means cantrips and your signature spells are out of the running for these bonuses. Talk about anti-synergy.</p><p></p><p><u>Absorption.</u></p><p>You go through all the trouble of learning a true name and all you get are 3d6 temp hps when you damage the target? Yes, it scales. No, that's still not worth it.</p><p><u>Devastation.</u></p><p>Heightened Spell, but with True Names™! You could have been a Diviner, you know.</p><p><u>Dissolution.</u></p><p>2d8 extra force damage, scaling. Evokers were also an option.</p><p><u>Nullification.</u></p><p>A free Dispel Magic. Now that's handy. Though you might want to consider an Abjurer if you are trying for an Anti-caster Wizard.</p><p><u>Puppetry.</u></p><p>It's Repelling Blast. But nowhere near as abusable.</p><p><u>Sympathy.</u></p><p>You spells are now guided missiles. That's really fun.</p><p></p><p><strong>Inexorable Pronouncement</strong></p><p>You get two more Resonants. You don't get the rest of them because lets face it, only three are really worth having anyway.</p><p></p><p><strong>Relentless Naming </strong></p><p>For a class all about names, they aren't very good at naming things.</p><p>If you are doing damage, you can use the awesome power of True Names™ to change the damage to force or psychic damage. I take it back Twilight Cleric, at least your capstone is thematically appropriate and fits the core class.</p><p></p><p><u>Thoughts.</u></p><p>I would be disappointed, but I have extremely low expectations for UA Wizard subclasses to begin with. Still, I severely doubt this one will make print unless they are mandated to make a wizard subclass in the next splat and run out of other ideas. As for the True Name theme, that makes me disappointed. Previous lore has played them up to be win conditions in their own right, but here they amount to little more than some extra damage and a slightly harder to make saving throw.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leatherhead, post: 7824453, member: 53176"] [B][I][U]Twilight Domain.[/U][/I][/B] Not intended for use with bad teenage or problematic adult romance novels. [B]Domain Spells[/B] This spell list is full of MVPs. I don't think I have ever seen such a stacked list. I figure the only reason [I]Leomund’s tiny hut[/I] is on there, is because[I] Catnap[/I] isn't in the PHB, but that's a heck of a trade up. [B]Bonus Proficiencies [/B] A martial Cleric eh? That doesn't strike me as totally congruent with the whimsical and ethereal flavoring of "twilight." On the plus side, it totally gives this Cleric a niche that no other Cleric really covers: The Archer. Too bad there still aren't any archery compatible [I]Booming Blade[/I] type spells. [B]Eyes of Night[/B] There would have been some joke about humans and halfings finally being able to "see the light" here, but did you know there are 20+ official races that don't have access to darkvision now? We have come a long way from the PHB where seeing in the dark was normal. Anyway, this is the reason they don't have [I]Dancing Lights. [/I]Add on that Unlimited range and group-share and you have a solid ability. [B]Vigilant Blessing [/B] This is kind of weirdly worded, it seemingly lasts forever until used. But it's hard to knock advantage on Initiative which can be passed off to someone else as needed. [B]Twilight Sanctuary [/B] 1d8 thp every turn, even on everyone, is kind of meh. Especially considering it doesn't scale. Ending the Charmed or Frightened conditions at will could just save you from a TPK. But the real draw here is the synergies of creating your own dim-light bubble, which is mostly just inflicting disadvantage on your enemies attacks with impuity until you get the next ability. One question that absolutely needs to be answered: How does this interact with the [I]Darkness[/I] spell? [B]Steps of the Brave [/B] A strangely grouped package of abilities. Resistance to fear is almost a ribbon considering there are ways to become immune to it. The real draw here, of course, is the flight speed. Creating your Twilight bubble, then flying up into the air to rain destruction on your foes has never been so safe! And they call this ability "brave" hah. [B]Divine Strike [/B] Psychic damage is actually a pretty good element. The hidden synergy here is that it applies to any weapon, including the longbow, which you conveniently have proficiency in. Granted +1d8 damage isn't exactly top of the line in terms of damage scaling, but expect this to be an integral part of the new FOTM Hexbow builds, should this subclass make it to print. [B]Midnight Shroud [/B] And the capstone ability is giving your entire party Devil's Sight. Yeah, that's really damn underwhelming for a capstone. Even if it is the logical upgrade to your twilight bubble, if you were trying to exploit your [I]Darkness[/I] to this degree, you would have already been a Warlock by now. And if you weren't going for that angle you should be casting some higher level spells instead, like maybe one of those 9th level spells you just got access too! This is a level 14 capstone, at best. [U]Thoughts[/U] [I]Shadow of Moil[/I] is the only spell that turns normal light into dim light. Other than that, there is only [I]Darkness[/I] for your light dampening needs. There really should be a few more low level spells capable of doing this kind of thing. That aside, this subclass is stacked like pancakes. I am in awe of the synergies and incidental power plays it can perform. [B][I][U]Circle of Wildfire [/U][/I][/B] You can tell WotC lives on the West Coast. My lungs still remember the 2018 wildfire season. [B]Circle Spells [/B] You get a bunch of burn. Also [I]Raise Dead[/I] for some reason. But not any new healing spells, despite what the subclass would insist it's themes are. [B]Summon Wildfire[/B] Yet another way to use your Wildshapes for something other than turning into a wolf. This time you get your own wickerman who explodes when they pop onto the battlefield. Also, it's the latest in a long line of pets that are better pets than the Beastmaster's. Poor, poor Beastmaster, one day Rex will have their day (well, if they ever bite the bullet on their "no revisions" policy that is.) Anyway, the darkhorse ability of this hunk of burning love is it's offensive teleport. Not only can you get your party set up just how they like, you can add a bit of injury to the insult you just served on the enemy. [B]Enhanced Bond[/B] Your fire damage and healing powers are boosted by 1d8 when your Wildfire is out. Also your Wildfire can be the origin for any spell that doesn't have a range of Self. You could have it toss out [I]Thunderclap[/I] or [I]Poison Spray[/I] (hah) for you. Maybe have it [I]Stone Shape [/I]the floor directly beneath it to make a hole in the ground. And I guess have it [I]Cure Wounds[/I] at a distance if you are one of those people who didn't pick [I]Healing Word[/I] for some reason. This ability was a lot more exciting when I read it as the exact opposite kind of range limitation. [B]Flames of Life[/B] You get a reaction based Healing power. Kind of nifty. Also useful for trolling someone because it can be told to burn instead of heal. [B]Blazing Endurance [/B] Now [U]this[/U] is a capstone. You strait up ignore getting knocked out once per day, and instead "come back" with a truckload of temp HP, and you get to burn the sod who had the audacity to make an attempt on your life in the first place! Thematic, powerful, and fun~! [U]Thoughts[/U] This is begging for the name "Circle of the Phoenix". I still maintain some kind of "fire-eating" ability would fit into this subclass snugly, maybe in place of Flames of Life. Also the healing half of this subclass isn't bold enough. Sure there is a bump to healing and a "free" heal, but it feels like it takes a backseat to the burning half of the subclass. At any rate, this opens the door to other elemental themed druids. [B][I][U]Onomancy [/U][/I][/B] What's in a name? Too much and too little it seems. [B]Bonus Proficiencies [/B] Well it's a ribbon. At least you get another language that might be useful for learning all those names. [B]Extract Name[/B] A one turn charm that can give you the targets True Name. Which is supposedly the cornerstone of this subclass, what allows it to "fuel" the other powers. Unfortunately, you only have one shot at this,[I] ever.[/I] Also it's a Wisdom save for some reason despite Charisma fitting more. This ability just doesn't feel right. And that's not just because it practically assured to fail against any target where you would actually need it and thus shut down half of your subclass powers. A saving throw? This couldn't have been a blood price or something else costly but actually possible? [B]Fateful Naming[/B] Free [I]Bless[/I] is really nice. At level 2 anyway. All you need is your name, or your familiar's name, or perhaps a Fighter party member who you managed to use Extract Name on. At later levels, you have better things to concentrate on. [B]Resonant Utterance [/B] Oh joy, it's not-metamagic, we all know how well that went over the last time it was tried on a Wizard subclass :censored:. This time it's limited to half of your Wizard level per day, though I doubt you will ever run up against that limit. You start off knowing only two. So you better pick wisely. And one final rule, they don't work on any spell that doesn't cost a spell slot, which means cantrips and your signature spells are out of the running for these bonuses. Talk about anti-synergy. [U]Absorption.[/U] You go through all the trouble of learning a true name and all you get are 3d6 temp hps when you damage the target? Yes, it scales. No, that's still not worth it. [U]Devastation.[/U] Heightened Spell, but with True Names™! You could have been a Diviner, you know. [U]Dissolution.[/U] 2d8 extra force damage, scaling. Evokers were also an option. [U]Nullification.[/U] A free Dispel Magic. Now that's handy. Though you might want to consider an Abjurer if you are trying for an Anti-caster Wizard. [U]Puppetry.[/U] It's Repelling Blast. But nowhere near as abusable. [U]Sympathy.[/U] You spells are now guided missiles. That's really fun. [B]Inexorable Pronouncement[/B] You get two more Resonants. You don't get the rest of them because lets face it, only three are really worth having anyway. [B]Relentless Naming [/B] For a class all about names, they aren't very good at naming things. If you are doing damage, you can use the awesome power of True Names™ to change the damage to force or psychic damage. I take it back Twilight Cleric, at least your capstone is thematically appropriate and fits the core class. [U]Thoughts.[/U] I would be disappointed, but I have extremely low expectations for UA Wizard subclasses to begin with. Still, I severely doubt this one will make print unless they are mandated to make a wizard subclass in the next splat and run out of other ideas. As for the True Name theme, that makes me disappointed. Previous lore has played them up to be win conditions in their own right, but here they amount to little more than some extra damage and a slightly harder to make saving throw. [/QUOTE]
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