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<blockquote data-quote="Bacon Bits" data-source="post: 7713349" data-attributes="member: 6777737"><p>That doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't be critical of the options presented, either. "These are just examples" isn't an excuse for awkward or confusing rules. It's worse because many tables <em>won't</em> alter what's there because they'll assume what WotC has presented is an intentional design. DMs and players aren't game designers and do not always think like game designers. DMs and players are used to following slightly arbitrary rules. After all, how many times have we heard said, "Well, it doesn't really make sense, but go ahead and roll anyway...." Some players and DMs ask Mearls and Crawford questions on Twitter and then do exactly as they respond even if they find the results nonsensical if they think about them. That's how people who don't have 20+ years experience play the game. We should be criticizing rules for <em>them</em> as much as for ourselves. Furthermore... I appreciate having frameworks, but I also often just want to be given the rules to use that will cover 90% of situations. I don't want to stop my game to complete or alter a design unless I really have to. Just give me something that works and is consistent.. and, IMO, some of these aren't. When I'm buying a game for rules, it's finished rules that I want when I'm actually playing.</p><p></p><p>Yes, we know that UA material is playtest material. That doesn't mean we should keep the gloves on with our criticism because it's "only" playtest material. Be honest and straightforward with your evaluations and criticisms <em>regardless of how you use the material at your table</em> because that's the only way to get material to improve before it finds its way into a hardcover somewhere (where some DM might inflict a poorly written and tested rule on <em>you</em> without modification). Given that this is the last of the weekly UAs, it's likely that this is a cutoff point for the crunch/rules book WotC is looking to publish this year, so I'd expect this to make an appearance in that book.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bacon Bits, post: 7713349, member: 6777737"] That doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't be critical of the options presented, either. "These are just examples" isn't an excuse for awkward or confusing rules. It's worse because many tables [I]won't[/I] alter what's there because they'll assume what WotC has presented is an intentional design. DMs and players aren't game designers and do not always think like game designers. DMs and players are used to following slightly arbitrary rules. After all, how many times have we heard said, "Well, it doesn't really make sense, but go ahead and roll anyway...." Some players and DMs ask Mearls and Crawford questions on Twitter and then do exactly as they respond even if they find the results nonsensical if they think about them. That's how people who don't have 20+ years experience play the game. We should be criticizing rules for [I]them[/I] as much as for ourselves. Furthermore... I appreciate having frameworks, but I also often just want to be given the rules to use that will cover 90% of situations. I don't want to stop my game to complete or alter a design unless I really have to. Just give me something that works and is consistent.. and, IMO, some of these aren't. When I'm buying a game for rules, it's finished rules that I want when I'm actually playing. Yes, we know that UA material is playtest material. That doesn't mean we should keep the gloves on with our criticism because it's "only" playtest material. Be honest and straightforward with your evaluations and criticisms [I]regardless of how you use the material at your table[/I] because that's the only way to get material to improve before it finds its way into a hardcover somewhere (where some DM might inflict a poorly written and tested rule on [I]you[/I] without modification). Given that this is the last of the weekly UAs, it's likely that this is a cutoff point for the crunch/rules book WotC is looking to publish this year, so I'd expect this to make an appearance in that book. [/QUOTE]
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