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Unearthed Arcana: Get Better At Skills With These Feats
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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7713698" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Sorry, but, isn't the PHB clear? If something doubles your bonus, and you get another thing that doubles your bonus, they don't stack. Page 173-174 of the PHB is pretty clear here:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What's unclear here? Granted, it could be organized better, but, that's a different issue. (Never minding having a decent bloody index <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /> )</p><p></p><p>So, no, this would not stack with expertise. A raging barbarian would have advantage and double bonus to his Athletics when attempting to grapple, with this feat, which might be pretty cool, but, it would in no way stack with a Rogue's Expertise feature. Note, a thief is getting effectively two of these feats (sans the stat bump) for free at 1st level. And two more at 6th. Other PC's shouldn't see this until 4th at the earliest. Not a bad trade off. </p><p></p><p>Considering clerics can effectively grant you proficiency in any skill at will with Guidance, I'm not seeing the problem here. And, between a cleric and a bard, getting someone's skill into the stratosphere isn't all that tricky if that's what you want. </p><p></p><p>And, as a last thing, people are talking about 13th level characters having sky high skills. Ok, fair enough, but, this is a THIRTEENTH level character. This character is already pretty high up on the food chain. For me, this would take about a year or so of gaming to achieve. Ok, after playing for a year, you can finally automatically spot stuff. Cool. Congrats. Now what?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7713698, member: 22779"] Sorry, but, isn't the PHB clear? If something doubles your bonus, and you get another thing that doubles your bonus, they don't stack. Page 173-174 of the PHB is pretty clear here: What's unclear here? Granted, it could be organized better, but, that's a different issue. (Never minding having a decent bloody index :( ) So, no, this would not stack with expertise. A raging barbarian would have advantage and double bonus to his Athletics when attempting to grapple, with this feat, which might be pretty cool, but, it would in no way stack with a Rogue's Expertise feature. Note, a thief is getting effectively two of these feats (sans the stat bump) for free at 1st level. And two more at 6th. Other PC's shouldn't see this until 4th at the earliest. Not a bad trade off. Considering clerics can effectively grant you proficiency in any skill at will with Guidance, I'm not seeing the problem here. And, between a cleric and a bard, getting someone's skill into the stratosphere isn't all that tricky if that's what you want. And, as a last thing, people are talking about 13th level characters having sky high skills. Ok, fair enough, but, this is a THIRTEENTH level character. This character is already pretty high up on the food chain. For me, this would take about a year or so of gaming to achieve. Ok, after playing for a year, you can finally automatically spot stuff. Cool. Congrats. Now what? [/QUOTE]
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