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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7714048" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>If we are just talking about the Diplomat feat here, then I would say that.... ugh I don't know what to call it. Table dynamics? Plays a big part</p><p></p><p>Essentially, if you want to activate this ability, you have a plan. I can't imagine a player walking up to someone, and not realizing they can activate this ability if they went through the trouble of getting it. So, they likely have a conversation topic in mind. Most players aren't going to open their plan with the equivalent of reading the phone book.</p><p></p><p>And even if they did, the nature of "charmed" means it could actually work. "Charmed" means they like you, you have advantage on social checks. Kind of like that charming old man you meet at the bus stop, you like the guy, he's got good stories, talks well, and you don't mind continuing the conversation another time. You are also not likely to suddenly stab him, it'd be a hard thing to do, you like the guy, you don't want to hurt him.</p><p></p><p>Charm however, is not dominate, it is not the suggestion spell, it is not geas. You have done nothing to effect the targets personality, goals, desires, or anything else. A coward is still unlikely to follow you into a dungeon, a priest is not going to renounce his faith, a knight will still hold onto his honor. These still require further rolls, they just have advantage because of the charm. </p><p></p><p></p><p>So, if you want to read the phonebook, and someone decides to listen to you for a full minute of droning on, go ahead and roll. Now you have advantage on your future rolls, what do you do with it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 7714048, member: 6801228"] If we are just talking about the Diplomat feat here, then I would say that.... ugh I don't know what to call it. Table dynamics? Plays a big part Essentially, if you want to activate this ability, you have a plan. I can't imagine a player walking up to someone, and not realizing they can activate this ability if they went through the trouble of getting it. So, they likely have a conversation topic in mind. Most players aren't going to open their plan with the equivalent of reading the phone book. And even if they did, the nature of "charmed" means it could actually work. "Charmed" means they like you, you have advantage on social checks. Kind of like that charming old man you meet at the bus stop, you like the guy, he's got good stories, talks well, and you don't mind continuing the conversation another time. You are also not likely to suddenly stab him, it'd be a hard thing to do, you like the guy, you don't want to hurt him. Charm however, is not dominate, it is not the suggestion spell, it is not geas. You have done nothing to effect the targets personality, goals, desires, or anything else. A coward is still unlikely to follow you into a dungeon, a priest is not going to renounce his faith, a knight will still hold onto his honor. These still require further rolls, they just have advantage because of the charm. So, if you want to read the phonebook, and someone decides to listen to you for a full minute of droning on, go ahead and roll. Now you have advantage on your future rolls, what do you do with it? [/QUOTE]
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