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<blockquote data-quote="OB1" data-source="post: 7714500" data-attributes="member: 6796241">Would like to quibble with this a bit.&nbsp; The game says that you describe what you want to do and the DM narrates the results, sometimes asking for a die role if the outcome is uncertain.&nbsp; So I would say that if a player says I run up, jump, plant my foot on a wall and backflip over the difficult terrain, or tumble my way through, assigning that a DC, defining what success and failure means, and asking them to roll an acrobatics check is well within the rules.My problem with these feats, is that by codifying those actions into feats, the game is strongly suggesting that you can't attempt that action without the feat.&nbsp; The rules are now deciding instead of the DM.&nbsp; That's what I meant when way upthread I said that these feats shrink the game instead of expanding it.I would much rather see a single Skill Feat that gives expertise, adds 1 to the corresponding ability, gives prof in 1 other skill with the same base ability, and allows you to use the skill as a bonus action any time it would normally take an action.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="OB1, post: 7714500, member: 6796241"] Would like to quibble with this a bit. The game says that you describe what you want to do and the DM narrates the results, sometimes asking for a die role if the outcome is uncertain. So I would say that if a player says I run up, jump, plant my foot on a wall and backflip over the difficult terrain, or tumble my way through, assigning that a DC, defining what success and failure means, and asking them to roll an acrobatics check is well within the rules. My problem with these feats, is that by codifying those actions into feats, the game is strongly suggesting that you can't attempt that action without the feat. The rules are now deciding instead of the DM. That's what I meant when way upthread I said that these feats shrink the game instead of expanding it. I would much rather see a single Skill Feat that gives expertise, adds 1 to the corresponding ability, gives prof in 1 other skill with the same base ability, and allows you to use the skill as a bonus action any time it would normally take an action. [/QUOTE]

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