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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 7712565" data-attributes="member: 83242">Personally, I think you are missing the point of 5e.&nbsp; The point in 5e, as I understand it, is to only use the math when needed, otherwise you use common sense and narration.&nbsp; As the DM I would say there is no reasonable chance a STR 10 average dude can beat a STR 18 endo-morph in an arm wrestling contest, thus no check.&nbsp; As [MENTION=54629]pukunui[/MENTION] noted in post #112, this is even supported by the PHB and DMG.&nbsp; I don't really care that it is RAW, it just makes sense to me, that is why I do it.&nbsp; The math can only do so much, you have to use common sense with RPG's I think.That is my point.&nbsp; The math cannot accurately model the real world, you have to use common sense.&nbsp; While I concede there is some small chance a STR 10 individual could beat a STR 18 individual it is, realistic, a fluke and statistically irrelevant.&nbsp; You can't use the game math in that situation, you have to use common sense, and I believe 5e supports that concept (even if not everyone excepts that).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 7712565, member: 83242"] Personally, I think you are missing the point of 5e. The point in 5e, as I understand it, is to only use the math when needed, otherwise you use common sense and narration. As the DM I would say there is no reasonable chance a STR 10 average dude can beat a STR 18 endo-morph in an arm wrestling contest, thus no check. As [MENTION=54629]pukunui[/MENTION] noted in post #112, this is even supported by the PHB and DMG. I don't really care that it is RAW, it just makes sense to me, that is why I do it. The math can only do so much, you have to use common sense with RPG's I think. That is my point. The math cannot accurately model the real world, you have to use common sense. While I concede there is some small chance a STR 10 individual could beat a STR 18 individual it is, realistic, a fluke and statistically irrelevant. You can't use the game math in that situation, you have to use common sense, and I believe 5e supports that concept (even if not everyone excepts that). [/QUOTE]

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