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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 7712588" data-attributes="member: 83242">Perhaps by RAW it is not supported, I don't feel that way (as noted below), but I don't stress over RAW anyway.&nbsp; Unless you are talking about using other dice than d20, then yes you are stuck with that.&nbsp; Is there support for degrees of failure or success - is that what your looking for?&nbsp; Again, I am not sure what RAW is on that subject, but the 5e framework definitely supports degrees of success and failure.&nbsp; I am sure there a abilities (definitely monsters, not sure about PCs) that have different consequences if you fail a save by 5 or more than if you fail by less than 5.&nbsp; I intuitively use the same concept when I DM, so saves, hits, and misses often have degrees of success or failure when I play 5e (or 4e or 1e before that). I see no reason to fiat a Str 16 vs a Str 15 contest.&nbsp; Now, if you want the tension of more than one role, just make it more than one role.&nbsp; A system you describe of the set up provided in the DMG:&nbsp; a number of successes before a number of fails.&nbsp; Or simply the first to&nbsp; set number of successes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 7712588, member: 83242"] Perhaps by RAW it is not supported, I don't feel that way (as noted below), but I don't stress over RAW anyway. Unless you are talking about using other dice than d20, then yes you are stuck with that. Is there support for degrees of failure or success - is that what your looking for? Again, I am not sure what RAW is on that subject, but the 5e framework definitely supports degrees of success and failure. I am sure there a abilities (definitely monsters, not sure about PCs) that have different consequences if you fail a save by 5 or more than if you fail by less than 5. I intuitively use the same concept when I DM, so saves, hits, and misses often have degrees of success or failure when I play 5e (or 4e or 1e before that). I see no reason to fiat a Str 16 vs a Str 15 contest. Now, if you want the tension of more than one role, just make it more than one role. A system you describe of the set up provided in the DMG: a number of successes before a number of fails. Or simply the first to set number of successes. [/QUOTE]

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