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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7712862" data-attributes="member: 6704184">The &quot;Warlock patrons can't be good&quot; ship sailed long ago, and was a bad ship anyway. 4e Patrona included The Lady of The White Well, who is explicitly a victim of jealousy and a curse, and simply wants free. 5e includes the Seeker, and the ArchFey makes no mention of Seelie or Unseelie, or any suggestion of what kind of Fey make pacts. The idea was posited a while back that simply the fact that the Patron is making pacts instead of granting power like clerics get theirs, means that Warlock patrons are not &quot;on the level&quot;. I...find this argument egregiously ridiculous. Great Old Ones aren't even necessarily aware of the Pact, and when they are their motivations are basically unknowable. Arch Fey...are Fey. Just like in folklore, they range greatly in nature, from helpful and nice, to dark and vicious or outright malevolent. Nothing about the flavor tells us hat warlocks only make pacts with the &quot;bad&quot; ones. And just as important, they are bloody Fey![i/] Deals, trades etc. are the classic Fey thing. Good, bad, and unaligned. Lastly, servitude? Really?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 7712862, member: 6704184"] The "Warlock patrons can't be good" ship sailed long ago, and was a bad ship anyway. 4e Patrona included The Lady of The White Well, who is explicitly a victim of jealousy and a curse, and simply wants free. 5e includes the Seeker, and the ArchFey makes no mention of Seelie or Unseelie, or any suggestion of what kind of Fey make pacts. The idea was posited a while back that simply the fact that the Patron is making pacts instead of granting power like clerics get theirs, means that Warlock patrons are not "on the level". I...find this argument egregiously ridiculous. Great Old Ones aren't even necessarily aware of the Pact, and when they are their motivations are basically unknowable. Arch Fey...are [I]Fey[/I]. Just like in folklore, they range greatly in nature, from helpful and nice, to dark and vicious or outright malevolent. Nothing about the flavor tells us hat warlocks only make pacts with the "bad" ones. And just as important, they are bloody [i]Fey![i/] Deals, trades etc. are the classic Fey thing. Good, bad, and unaligned. Lastly, servitude? Really?[/i] [/QUOTE]

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