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<blockquote data-quote="DMZ2112" data-source="post: 6307427" data-attributes="member: 78752"><p>What does that have to do with the price of potatoes? I'm not talking about <em>Dogs in the Vineyard</em>, I'm talking about games with actual followings outside the internet echo chamber, like Shadowrun, World of Darkness, Legend of the Five Rings, and the WH40KRPG.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I honestly did not know FATE was OGL. It had not intruded on my bubble enough for me to realize that. The entirety of my relationship with FATE is that I have friends who wish they had opportunities to play it, which I guess says good things about its design but not a whole lot for its marketing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'll let this one go on semantic grounds, because you're right that your original statement can be read that way. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No it isn't. That's conjecture at this stage.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That may well be the case, but history has clearly shown that when these cases do go to court, the IP owner comes out ahead in the inevitable settlement.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Consumers also bought a hell of a lot of D&D4 product. In 3Q 2010 Pathfinder and D&D4 were tied for best selling RPG product. Pathfinder didn't start outselling D&D by a margin until D&D stopped being <em>made.</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That does not follow!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sorry, AD, it wasn't my intention to pick on you, just make a point. Your conclusion was actually logical, I just came to a different and equally logical conclusion. I'm becoming frustrated with all the <em>baseless</em> conjecture around here, epitomized by "character generation support will be available for the Starter Set but I can't tell you more" week.</p><p></p><p>It will be in the boxed set! Maybe! It will be available online! Maybe! There is going to be an OGL SRD! ...That is a bit of a jump, in the same sense that Earth is a bit wet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DMZ2112, post: 6307427, member: 78752"] What does that have to do with the price of potatoes? I'm not talking about [I]Dogs in the Vineyard[/I], I'm talking about games with actual followings outside the internet echo chamber, like Shadowrun, World of Darkness, Legend of the Five Rings, and the WH40KRPG. I honestly did not know FATE was OGL. It had not intruded on my bubble enough for me to realize that. The entirety of my relationship with FATE is that I have friends who wish they had opportunities to play it, which I guess says good things about its design but not a whole lot for its marketing. I'll let this one go on semantic grounds, because you're right that your original statement can be read that way. No it isn't. That's conjecture at this stage. That may well be the case, but history has clearly shown that when these cases do go to court, the IP owner comes out ahead in the inevitable settlement. Consumers also bought a hell of a lot of D&D4 product. In 3Q 2010 Pathfinder and D&D4 were tied for best selling RPG product. Pathfinder didn't start outselling D&D by a margin until D&D stopped being [I]made.[/I] That does not follow! Sorry, AD, it wasn't my intention to pick on you, just make a point. Your conclusion was actually logical, I just came to a different and equally logical conclusion. I'm becoming frustrated with all the [I]baseless[/I] conjecture around here, epitomized by "character generation support will be available for the Starter Set but I can't tell you more" week. It will be in the boxed set! Maybe! It will be available online! Maybe! There is going to be an OGL SRD! ...That is a bit of a jump, in the same sense that Earth is a bit wet. [/QUOTE]
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