NOW LIVE! Today's the day you meet your new best friend. You don’t have to leave Wolfy behind... In 'Pets & Sidekicks' your companions level up with you!

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8786628" data-attributes="member: 18">I mostly agree.As said much, much earlier the main thing is WotC need to "pick a lane" on the Ranger, and they've resolutely refused to do so. Absolutely refused. They just come up with all sorts of conflicting and unconvincing visions of the Ranger.It's like, if you want the pop-culture and fantasy literature Ranger, you want someone who by default doesn't have magic (but there could absolutely be subclasses that did), and whose main deal is they're a competent, sneaky warrior, who knows absolutely everything about nature, and is totally in tune with their environment, and maybe with animals too.If you want the videogame take on the Ranger, well, it's basically Beastmaster taken 2 THA MAX, with PETS PETS PETS, animal summons, magic but only relating to the summons and the like, and so on.If you want the old-skool D&D version of the Ranger, you want something a lot like the pop-culture/fantasy lit Ranger, but who maybe always eventually (at a fairly high level) gets some access to magic.If you want this strange basically multiclass Druid/Fighter but with skills take that 5E is doing, that can work, but change the lore so it matches with what's described, rather than being a huge mismatch. And ditch the existing subclasses that don't match this vibe. Like, keep Fey Wanderer, it's a good match, as is the one with the bees, but ditch stuff like Hunter, Beastmaster and so on, which are a totally terrible match for this guy (as well-illustrated by the bizarre and weakly-drawn Hunter subclass we have here).Pick one. Stick with it. Right now WotC are just making a weird mess that is absolutely falling between two chairs. And this isn't new to 5E. 3.XE's vision of Ranger was messy as hell (though they at least got that animal companions were popular, something they don't really get in 5E despite their own polling showing it). 4E just presented starkly conflicting visions of the Ranger, none of them convincing or engaging. 5E has this mess, and 1D&D is making an even bigger mess than 5E (and really doubling down on replacing abilities with spells, something they've done the opposite with in virtually every other class in 5E and 1D&D).</blockquote>

Verification