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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7710411" data-attributes="member: 6704184">I get your point, and agree, but here are some counter examples and arguments: The music example doesn't have to be that expensive. Second hand gear usually works fine, and drums are pretty expensive compared to other rock instruments. You can get a perfectly good guitar for a couple hundred, and a lot of the other equipment can be gotten second hand or cheaper than that, as well. Most hobby drummers I know don't spend near that much on most of their gear. Pretty only the guys I know who are touring regularly due to decent regional success, and they spent that money over the course of years, upgrading their gear bit by bit. Sports, you also chose expensive examples. Any jackhole can play soccer for less than it costs to get started with DnD. Baseball is a bit more, but most of the additional cost is easily spread out over more people. Basketball is just as cheap as soccer. Football depends on what level you're playing at, but if it is truly hobby level, we're talking touch/flag, which is gonna be cheaper than DND, again. Sword-fighting is a good example, but when I was doing the SCA, in a group that took it a lot more seriously than many do, and practiced 3+ times a week for 3-4 hours at a time, the most expensive gear were your helmet, and the shield, unless someone you know has a good source of materials for the shield, or you don't fight with one. So, ignoring loaner gear, and getting right into the point where you buy your own stuff, you're talking maybe twice the startup cost of DnD? Sure, you can spend a lot more, but I have friends who spend easily 1k$ or more on any given edition of DnD, not to mention the minis and stuff that get used for all our games. I can name a friend who has probably spent 2 grand or more on TTRPGs over the last ten years, and that isn't counting the huge suitcase/tacklebox thing the height of a 8 year old he has full of minis for DnD and Star Wars. And he doesn't even get into indie games. I know I've spent more on TTRPGs than anything else except maybe books, in my lifetime.</blockquote>

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