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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7710438" data-attributes="member: 6704184">I don't care about, and wasn't commenting on the discussion of, how expensive dnd is. At all.That said, to play dnd without spending money is the same as doing the SCA without spending money, or playing soccer without spending money. You can, but you're going to want to have your own stuff at some point, and it will cost money. There are specific activities within a hobby that cost more money, like playing dnd at conventions, or going to SCA wars and fighting officially, or playing soccer in a league, but the actual activity itself can be done with nothing by borrowed gear. I was in the SCA for nearly a year before I spent a dime on anything other than the beer and food I brought to the parties after practice. At then I spent less than 200$, over the course of a few months, with most of that being the damn helmet. And yes, that 100$ helmet authorizes just fine. Later I spent more on stuff like better garb, a set of rattan swords, a rattan glaive, hockey gloves for using the glaive safely, a shield I liked more than the loaners, a drinking horn, camp gear, etc. But for that first year, I didn't spend a dime on anything but entrance to events, and food and drink. Same as DND. As for soccer, not a cent. Ever. Basketball I did have to buy a new ball, twice, because of bad luck, but I got 2 soccer balls from friends/relatives, and wore the same clothes I work out in, and went to a park with my friends. I also like that in your first post you quote the starting price of playing dnd as the cost of the core books, and then once there are examples of hobbies that are just as cheap or cheaper, you changed it to the claim that you can play for free, "unlike any other hobby". I'm sure you'll quote the cost of pencils and paper as a cost for drawing as a hobby that dnd doesn't share, even though they are easy to get for free and you need them for dnd as well. Also whittling, found object sculpting, martial arts (whether this has a cost depends on whether you have friends or family that can teach you), singing, the fact that most musicians I know got second hand instruments for free, or less than the cost of two dnd core books, and played for years with those. I have a few musician friends who still primarily play with their first instrument, though they have replaced strings and the like. The point is, you made a silly claim about the cost of hobbies in general. Ie, that they are all more expensive than DnD. The claim is false. I don't care about the context that lead to you making the claim, I'm just calling out the absurd claim. As I literally started my last post by saying, I agree with the general point you were making, that DnD isn't expensive.</blockquote>

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