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<blockquote data-quote="prosfilaes" data-source="post: 7734204" data-attributes="member: 40166"><p>So, in one case it doesn't matter because it was a screw-up of D&D's owners, and in the other it doesn't matter because it was the competitor's success. There's three reasons businesses stop being on top; they stop doing well, their opponents start doing better, and <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> happens (war, terrorism, hurricanes). You've said everything but "<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> happens" is moot.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That does not accord with my memory at all. TSR was sold in 1997, the same year WW published 35 books. In 1998, they made some changes to account for the problems of the publishing industry at the time, but that's not heading out the door. They sold to CCP in 2006; since they released books every month in 2006 and 2007 except Dec. 2006, they weren't nearly in the dire straits that TSR was. And that was nine years later.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>IBM was on top of the computer industry for 30 years, basically since they rolled out some of the earliest computers in 1952. And then one day they weren't, and 40 years from their first computer they posted the largest loss in American corporate history. Hasbro knows this; I'd be surprised if every business major in the world didn't have a college lecture using that as an example of how a company could have it all and lose it.</p><p></p><p>Also, from Hasbro's perspective, they can deal with vagaries in the RPG market. They have a lot of swing properties, properties that go fallow for a while until it's time to bring them back. But Pathfinder could undercut that; even if RPGs go down, they don't want to try and bring D&D back ten years later and hear "Elminster? The RPG wizard guy? Oh, oh, you mean Ezren!"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="prosfilaes, post: 7734204, member: 40166"] So, in one case it doesn't matter because it was a screw-up of D&D's owners, and in the other it doesn't matter because it was the competitor's success. There's three reasons businesses stop being on top; they stop doing well, their opponents start doing better, and :):):):) happens (war, terrorism, hurricanes). You've said everything but ":):):):) happens" is moot. That does not accord with my memory at all. TSR was sold in 1997, the same year WW published 35 books. In 1998, they made some changes to account for the problems of the publishing industry at the time, but that's not heading out the door. They sold to CCP in 2006; since they released books every month in 2006 and 2007 except Dec. 2006, they weren't nearly in the dire straits that TSR was. And that was nine years later. IBM was on top of the computer industry for 30 years, basically since they rolled out some of the earliest computers in 1952. And then one day they weren't, and 40 years from their first computer they posted the largest loss in American corporate history. Hasbro knows this; I'd be surprised if every business major in the world didn't have a college lecture using that as an example of how a company could have it all and lose it. Also, from Hasbro's perspective, they can deal with vagaries in the RPG market. They have a lot of swing properties, properties that go fallow for a while until it's time to bring them back. But Pathfinder could undercut that; even if RPGs go down, they don't want to try and bring D&D back ten years later and hear "Elminster? The RPG wizard guy? Oh, oh, you mean Ezren!" [/QUOTE]
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