Upper Krust, where are you? [Immortal's Handbook]

[Virgil Sagecaster]

Hi there!

How's it going, Knowledge Bringer!

So basically its a waiting game for D&D to enter to the SRD so you can use/convert the matieral for your "Immortal Handbook"?

By the way, that brings up a couple of questions:
How dose published material enter the SRD?
Is the SRD the same as the "Open d20 Gaming License"?

 

[Sollir Furryfoot]

(Sorry for the small hijack)

Originally posted by Knight Otu
But yes, it is a fun chapter, and I'm hoping to unleash my Rain of Jade upon the hordes of shdaowlands oni in the Rokugan IR

Hey! I heard that!!!

*Bumps Knight Otu up on his list accordingly*

Sollir, player of Daigotsu, Lord of the Shadowlands in the Rokugan IR

 

[Knight Otu]

(Sorry for the small hijack)



Hey! I heard that!!!

*Bumps Knight Otu up on his list accordingly*

Sollir, player of Daigotsu, Lord of the Shadowlands in the Rokugan IR [/B]

I thought I was on top of that list already after the reply to your e-mail?

 

[Aloïsius]

stupid nitpicking

Hello UK,
I just read in the D&D faq that god's stats were based after those of the Titan, not the Solar. So you were wrong
(excuse me if this was already say elsewhere in this thread, I did not see it)

 

[Upper_Krust]

Re: stupid nitpicking

Hi Aloïsius mate!

Hello UK,
I just read in the D&D faq that god's stats were based after those of the Titan, not the Solar. So you were wrong
(excuse me if this was already say elsewhere in this thread, I did not see it)

Well then whoever wrote the D&D faq doesn't know what they are talking about!

Lets look at the evidence:

Quasi-deity

- Damage Reduction 35/+4; same as Solar
- Spell Resistance 32; same as Solar
- Immunity to Acid; same as Solar
- Immunity to Cold; same as Solar
- Immunity to Electricity; same as Solar
- Fire Resistance 20; same as Solar

The only thing the Titan seems to contribute is base Natural Armour 13.

Technically Solar Natural Armour seems to be an amalgam of Divine Natural Armour and Divine Deflection anyway (albeit one point out).

So the evidence is at least 6:1 in my favour.

 

[The Serge]

U_K!

Gadodel has posted a really interesting thread on the WotC DDG boards about "Why they shouldn't be gods," referring to the planar entities.

Thought you'd like to join in on what looks like may be a fun discussion.

I, too, saw that mention about Titans and thought that odd considering what the Solars look like.

However, it was written by The Sage....

Your thoughts on the Epic Level Handbook?

 

[Upper_Krust]

How's it going, Knowledge Bringer!

Hey there Virgil!

So basically its a waiting game for D&D to enter to the SRD so you can use/convert the matieral for your "Immortal Handbook"?

Yes.

By the way, that brings up a couple of questions:

Sure fire away.

How dose published material enter the SRD?

Wizards of the Coast officially update it.

Is the SRD the same as the "Open d20 Gaming License"?

(as far as I know) The SRD is the body of material thats 'open'. The Open Gaming License is the legal contract.

Other publishers can make their work 'open' as well; I think parts of Relics & Rituals were 'open'. I am not sure if I will make the IH open or not...?

 

[Upper_Krust]

U_K!

Hey Serge mate!

Gadodel has posted a really interesting thread on the WotC DDG boards about "Why they shouldn't be gods," referring to the planar entities.

Thought you'd like to join in on what looks like may be a fun discussion.

I'll probably stop by later - though I may not join in until Monday. I can't imagine I am going to be posting much over the next 4 days.

I, too, saw that mention about Titans and thought that odd considering what the Solars look like.

I don't know how they extrapolated the quasi-deity from the titan!? It doesn't make sense!?

However, it was written by The Sage....

I rest my case!

Your thoughts on the Epic Level Handbook?

Its better than Deities & Demigods.

I'll post a lengthier examination in the near future.

 

[Anubis]

Hey yo! Wassup, UK?

I was just wondering . . . Are you gonna fix the rules for advancing monsters? The current rules break down very VERY quickly . . .

Take, for example, the Athach. HD 14, CR 7. Now, by the advancement rules, if you bump it up to HD 28, it is then CR 9. This, however, is utterly ridiculous. I took a Level 9 party up against one of these things and they barely made it out alive, having to use nearly all of their resources!

Another good example is the Solar. (Note: I am using UK's method of determining CR in this example, but the example is just as valid, if not more valid, using the original CR of the Solar.) HD 22, CR 25. Using the rules, bumping the Solar up to HD 44, it becomes CR 27. Certainly you would agree that this is more than a wee bit ridiculous?

For those of you who want to argue about the Solar's CR, here it is for you. HD 22, CR 19. HD 44, CR 21. Any questions?

For my final example, I will use Tarrasque. (Note: I am once again using UK's method.) HD 48, CR 24. By the rules, advancing it to HD 96 would make it CR 26. Anyone else have a problem with that?

For those of you wanting me to give another example using current rules, here's for you. HD 48, CR 20. HD 96, CR 22. Any questions?

Basically, the more HD a creature has, the more broken the system gets. The HD 28 Athach should be CR 13 MINIMUM. The HD 44 Solar should be at least CR 30, and the HD 96 Tarrasque should be a bare minimum of CR 33.

 

[Knight Otu]

Anubis, I thouroughly agree.

My temporary fix was increasing the CR for each number of hit dice the creature gained, based on type (say, 1 per each 2 outsider HD) and special abilities. I never tested it really, though. I think Upper_Krust's CR system applies to advanced creature's, too?