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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Consonant Dude" data-source="post: 5811411" data-attributes="member: 6688791">I don't dispute your reasonable position. Game designers must decide what is fun or not. So, let's say I make a new game. It's about pink robots fighting. It's got 18 stats. And for initiative I use a spinning thing. Whoever it points toward has a turn. Doesn't matter if you get 3 turns in a row. And as you level up, you get to add funky pink color on your bot. I call this game ROBOTS FOR THE WIN and put it on the market. Maybe it's fun, maybe it isn't. Some people buy it, some don't. Whatever. The thing is, people bought Robots FTW. It's what the brand stands for. As a designer, I had a blank slate. When you take on the task of redesigning a brand, you have an added responsibility. The more storied the brand is, the more appreciated, and the more you have to take this legacy into account. That's where the disconnect comes, you see. If you're really into engineering economic compact cars, don't take on the task of redesigning the Hummer as one. Cause there might be merits to your design but you're preaching to the wrong choir.  If you're designing a new fantasy game called "Adventurers and Ants" and you wanna speak at length about how DnD sucks, sure... go for it! Make it vastly different from DnD! I think there's room for games different from DnD. I might even buy it!What rubs people the wrong way is to see designers tasked to redesign a specific brand and come out like they're putting down a lot of what made this brand successful and take it in a drastically different direction. By all means, experiment to your heart's content. But such experiments deserve their own brand. WotC failed at two things:-Valuing and cherishing the DnD legacy (It's better to tell us about improvements than explaining at length how your previous product sucked) -Redesigning the brand without deconstructing it.That's why they are backpedaling big time now.</blockquote>

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