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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 5811567" data-attributes="member: 6957">As I think that I have said - the game itself likely does not need apologizing for.The offensive marketing offensive, yes, an apology is a good place to start.I do not think that I have ever called 4e 'videogamey'. Gamist, yes, compared it to boardgames, certainly.But video game and tabletop RPGs are very different things.The closest that I can come up with in videogame terms is Final Fantasy Tactics - which was a game that I enjoyed. (Actually, I enjoyed it much more than 4e, but then I also enjoyed it more than any other Final Fantasy game....)But that was turn based strategy/tactics, not a first person shooter or real time CRPG. You could, excluding graphics, recreate FFT as a boardgame.The Auld Grump</blockquote>