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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8635290" data-attributes="member: 7030563">What makes 5 feet reasonable but 25 feet not reasonable?What about my second example - you walk past an invisible creature and he makes his AOO when you leave his reach.&nbsp; Now you can abort the move and go all the way back to where you started.How about I circle/spiral around someone 3 times gradually getting further and further away each rotation until I finally leave his reach the third time circling him.&nbsp; So I have walked about 45 feet of movement and moved about 2 feet further away from him in the last time I circled (15 feet) I walked and that 2 feet is what put me out of his reach.&nbsp; Do I go back to where I was before I circled him?&nbsp; Do I get 2 feet closer?&nbsp; Do I get 5 feet closer?&nbsp; How far do I go back?I can totally buy the argument that you have not left his reach, you are at the very limit of it and still within his reach and can abort any further movement (and attack if you have the same reach as me).&nbsp; I can't buy that you have not moved at all, because whether you have to move 1 foot to leave my reach or 100 feet to leave my reach you still have to move.I mean if we are going to say this what is the limit 1 inch, 1 foot, 5 feet, 15 feet, how much movement can I &quot;take back&quot; and why is it THAT number.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8635290, member: 7030563"] What makes 5 feet reasonable but 25 feet not reasonable? What about my second example - you walk past an invisible creature and he makes his AOO when you leave his reach. Now you can abort the move and go all the way back to where you started. How about I circle/spiral around someone 3 times gradually getting further and further away each rotation until I finally leave his reach the third time circling him. So I have walked about 45 feet of movement and moved about 2 feet further away from him in the last time I circled (15 feet) I walked and that 2 feet is what put me out of his reach. Do I go back to where I was before I circled him? Do I get 2 feet closer? Do I get 5 feet closer? How far do I go back? I can totally buy the argument that you have not left his reach, you are at the very limit of it and still within his reach and can abort any further movement (and attack if you have the same reach as me). I can't buy that you have not moved at all, because whether you have to move 1 foot to leave my reach or 100 feet to leave my reach you still have to move. I mean if we are going to say this what is the limit 1 inch, 1 foot, 5 feet, 15 feet, how much movement can I "take back" and why is it THAT number. [/QUOTE]

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