Using the Wis Bonus for Favored Enemies

Stalker0

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I've been in ranger tinkering mode again for the last few days. Instead of doing the standard way of beefing up favored enemy, what if you simply added the ranger's wisdom bonus to all the favored enemy skills and to damage?

With this idea, here's what I see as the its strengths and weaknesses to the ranger.

Strengths:
1)Could be a much bigger bonus at lower levels.
2)The ranger has less to worry about in the order he picks favored enemies. He can pick them solely on what he's likely to fight, not on what he needs bonuses for later.
3)There's no cap on the power of Favored Enemy. It can become as strong as your wisdom allows.
4)That new favored enemy every 5 levels is no longer just a measly +1. It could be a big increase.

Weaknesses:
1)It makes wisdom a strong key stat for the ranger. While now rangers only need a 14 wisdom for his highest level spells, this ranger would need to keep upgrading his wisdom along with his other stats if he wants to keep scaling favored enemy.
2)In middle levels, this favored bonus could lag behind the current system for some favored enemy if the ranger's wisdom isn't that high.
3) Leveling doesn't give any new advantages against old favored enemies, so for them there's no feel of growing more powerful.
4) Having a negative wisdom would make the favored enemy useless.

Balance Issues:
1)In campaigns where only a few races are prevalent, the ranger's favored enemy ability could give him big advantages in skills and damage- and might make the class more frontloaded.
Counter: However, the "coolness" factor of favored enemy has the chance to increase by a great margin, and in normal campaigns may make it more desirable to go up more levels in ranger, to get a nice big bonus to an array of creatures.
2) A ranger with access to both str and wis boosting items and spells could potentially do a large amount more damage than fighters and barbs against his favored enemy, and for some skills surpasses the rogue.
Counter: The ranger is a specilized fighter/hunter whose main class aspect is favored enemy. Therefore, against these creatures he should be a good deal stronger than the fighter and rogue.
3) Rangers with low or negative wisdoms become very weak compared to the original version.
Counter: This ranger is more like the Paladin-where 2 of his main abilities come from Cha. A paladin with low or neg charisma is just not that strong, and so the ranger should be expected to have a decent to high wisdom.

So what does everyone think about THIS idea. Please don't post your ranger versions and ideas, we can save those for their own posts.
 
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Seems to be just fine, and a Ranger doesn't need a high Wis for this to work, even a 14 will grant a +2 and that's pretty darn good.
 

With what you have proposed you go with standered progreshen + wisdom.

They get stronger but not by much by what your saying. This means that they still have the fleability that you now have plus you can use the pic level hand book and all its bonuses (Wich will make this class kinda brocken now). Since a ranger with a 14 wisdom with the miner change I am suggesting will have a +7 bonuse to hise first favered enemy, a +6 with his second, +5 With his thred ect.
 


Re: Huh?

Steverooo said:
Not sure I understood this correctly... Rangers get WIS as a bonus to damage, plus the skills currently listed, then get the SAME bonus to new creatures at each fifth level? Izzat correct?

Basically, wherever you see a favored enemy bonus in the ph ranger-simply replace it with "the ranger adds his wisdom bonus..."

At 5th level, 10, etc- you pick a new enemy that you can add this bonus to. But in my version the bonus won't progress, its always simply your wis bonus.
 


That is a very interesting idea... Something to do with Wisdom other than be a cleric/druid :).

Basically, I think I'd add the clause "this bonus is equal to the ranger's wisdom modifier (if positive)", but other than that, pretty straight forward.

Mmm, must go tinker with my ranger's text and see how it looks :).
 

To the frontloading idea, yeah in the ranger's current state it probably would- but I think changing the ambi/TWF with something else could fix that up fine.

Curious, for those who have played high level characters needing lots of good stats (paladin comes to mind) how easy is it for you to get all of those stats to high levels?

If its fairly easy, the ranger may become very very powerful at high levels. If splitting your magic amoung different stats keeps them all in check, I could see how this would increase the rangers power some but not make it overbearing.
 

Interesting idea. :D

I currently start all favored enemies at +2 instead of +1. This has given the first choice some more teeth and the last choice at least equals weapon specialization.
 

Dr. Zoom said:
Interesting idea. :D

I currently start all favored enemies at +2 instead of +1. This has given the first choice some more teeth and the last choice at least equals weapon specialization.

I also did this with one of my ranger varients and thought it worked well.
 

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