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<blockquote data-quote="kingius" data-source="post: 5963744" data-attributes="member: 85123">Fly works on others, alter self does not.Polymorph any object is 8th level (!)... so if you want to turn a rock into a stone golem, feel free, but at 8th level, in a party of 6, the kind of enemies you are going to face aren't going to be too phased by a stone golem bolstering your squad. Also, a rock has no intelligence, so the stone golem won't either. Which could be fun... a statue perhaps?Shapechange is 9th level(!). The most powerful spells in the game sit here. You can stop time, make wishes to change reality to anything you want and have really hit the top limit in the game in terms of sheer magical power. Changing shape into a choker for an extra action a round really would be a pathetic use of a 9th level spell. I realise that's only one of your examples, but come on, by the time you are casting 9th level spells you are supposed to be a legend.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kingius, post: 5963744, member: 85123"] Fly works on others, alter self does not. Polymorph any object is 8th level (!)... so if you want to turn a rock into a stone golem, feel free, but at 8th level, in a party of 6, the kind of enemies you are going to face aren't going to be too phased by a stone golem bolstering your squad. Also, a rock has no intelligence, so the stone golem won't either. Which could be fun... a statue perhaps? Shapechange is 9th level(!). The most powerful spells in the game sit here. You can stop time, make wishes to change reality to anything you want and have really hit the top limit in the game in terms of sheer magical power. Changing shape into a choker for an extra action a round really would be a pathetic use of a 9th level spell. I realise that's only one of your examples, but come on, by the time you are casting 9th level spells you are supposed to be a legend. [/QUOTE]

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