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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ruemere" data-source="post: 5506374" data-attributes="member: 5515">To quote myself: "Bad stereotypes aside..."This is just a bad stereotype. Idiotic even. However lame it is, it is not an attempt to produce a portrayal of reality, just like terrible MTV clips with guys and gals of various ethnicities are not racist.Bad stereotype. Uncomfortably bad.Bad stereotype. The Giovanni had hundreds of years to learn and reform, remaining something of a family business. Giovanni were necromancers, and they simply found it convenient to merge with existing crime organizations of all kinds. The Mafia stereotype was just a stereotype, as Giovanni had an organization of their own.Bad stereotype. Oh, and famous heavyhandedness of WWGS. Bad design, too - they tried to use concept of oriental superhantual ghettos as a vehicle to explain sudden appearance of Kuei-Jin at very late stage of development of the setting.Full stop. You're making serious accusations here. I am not going to directly comment though - this is not a place to discuss stuff happening so close to my home (in a manner of sense).On this particular subject and from my own personal experience, I can say that I am very uncomfortable with people who put their children on streets to beg (a seasonal calamity befalling my home city) no matter what culture, country or background they hail from.Back to the game in question: World of Darkness is full of dark themes. WWGS made sure that every book of theirs had a disclaimer informing reader that their books are not meant to be accurate portrayal of real world. Their bad stereotypes, bad design and bad research aside, they told you up front that they meant to produce World of Darkness products.And so, being unable to separate, admittedly poor and juvenile, and tasteless, fiction from real life views should be considered to be fault of a reader.Also, I think I'd better not ask about your opinion on Black Dog imprint books. Some of these, including Human Occupied Landfill, were dark in more mature way, and as such, were quite disturbing.There is a lot of anger here. Again, I'll refrain from commenting directly.I'll just say that in real life I try to get over my personal prejudices.Should they be, really? It's easy to discriminate against whole range of products using a few bad apples as examples, but it's neither scientific nor logical.You're also using your bias to produce statements which mirror bad stereotypes you base your bias upon.I am not trying to defend WWGS as a whole. My initial post was rather bitter because I still feel resentment over my favorite game being stripped of fun stuff. However, I would like people not to bring too much of real life into work of fiction.Regards,Ruemere</blockquote>

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