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<blockquote data-quote="RHM" data-source="post: 21922" data-attributes="member: 1274"><p>First, unless they specialize, wizards <em>can</em> learn every 9th-level spell. It's just a matter of them writing each one in their spellbook. Second, sorcerers can also learn any spell they wish to (up to their limit of spells known, of course) from any school of magic. Third, a psion who is good at only a few things gets pretty boring. The other "spellcasting" classes are much more versatile in this respect. A couple 13-15ish scores beyond his highest stat? Maybe with 32 point buy, but even then, you'll be sacrificing having even mediocre scores in the three remaining abilities.</p><p></p><p>32 point buy for egoist:</p><p>STR 15 -> 8 points -> boosted every 4 levels</p><p>DEX 12 -> 4 points</p><p>CON 12 -> 4 points</p><p>INT 14 -> 6 points</p><p>WIS 12 -> 4 points</p><p>CHA 14 -> 6 points</p><p></p><p>.: The 20th-level egoist probably won't know any powers above 4th level outside of his primary discipline. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Alright, how about this question then: Do you consider my variant balanced? Also, I think my reasons are very credible. You don't. That's cool. Let me outline my reasons:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I don't think psionic powers should be tied to physical stats, with the exception of gaining bonus PP for a high Constitution. As far as I'm concerned, psionics are about shaping reality to fit one's will, not about flexing your muscles so you can grow claws, heal, or whatever.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Plain and simple, a lack of versatility. The psion as written is pretty one-note. Not every campaign uses 32 point buy, you know.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">I've dumped subclasses because some were just "better" than others. Better powers, better skills, just plain better. What's the point of having a subclass if no one's going to play it?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Underpowered. You don't think so, though, do you?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Not really a reason, but I implore you to go and do some reading in the official Psionics forum on the Wizards site. Plenty of other people there aren't satisfied with psions either. There are pages upon pages of posts on the subject. Even Bruce Cordell himself has releases variant rules to address some issues people have had concerns with.<br /> [/list=1] <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Why is it undead can't use powers from the psychometabolism discipline? Oh, yeah, that's right! They don't have a metabolism. (p. 140, PsiHB and the errata that accompanies it.)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Which is why my variant psion gains bonus PP from a high CON in addition to bonus points from WIS. It has nothing to do with my "narrow view".<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> How convenient. Let's just give psions Timeless Body at 5th level, or better yet, immortality. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> My point is, a campaign world and a game system requires a certain amount of synchroneity. Characters do age. There will be 70+ year old psions in the world. Does it make sense that there will be plenty of very old high-level, powerful NPC seers, telepaths, and shapers in that world, but no nomads, egoists, or savants of comparable age and power? Not to me.</li> </ol></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RHM, post: 21922, member: 1274"] First, unless they specialize, wizards [i]can[/i] learn every 9th-level spell. It's just a matter of them writing each one in their spellbook. Second, sorcerers can also learn any spell they wish to (up to their limit of spells known, of course) from any school of magic. Third, a psion who is good at only a few things gets pretty boring. The other "spellcasting" classes are much more versatile in this respect. A couple 13-15ish scores beyond his highest stat? Maybe with 32 point buy, but even then, you'll be sacrificing having even mediocre scores in the three remaining abilities. 32 point buy for egoist: STR 15 -> 8 points -> boosted every 4 levels DEX 12 -> 4 points CON 12 -> 4 points INT 14 -> 6 points WIS 12 -> 4 points CHA 14 -> 6 points .: The 20th-level egoist probably won't know any powers above 4th level outside of his primary discipline. Alright, how about this question then: Do you consider my variant balanced? Also, I think my reasons are very credible. You don't. That's cool. Let me outline my reasons: [list=1] [*]I don't think psionic powers should be tied to physical stats, with the exception of gaining bonus PP for a high Constitution. As far as I'm concerned, psionics are about shaping reality to fit one's will, not about flexing your muscles so you can grow claws, heal, or whatever. [*]Plain and simple, a lack of versatility. The psion as written is pretty one-note. Not every campaign uses 32 point buy, you know. [*]I've dumped subclasses because some were just "better" than others. Better powers, better skills, just plain better. What's the point of having a subclass if no one's going to play it? [*]Underpowered. You don't think so, though, do you? [*]Not really a reason, but I implore you to go and do some reading in the official Psionics forum on the Wizards site. Plenty of other people there aren't satisfied with psions either. There are pages upon pages of posts on the subject. Even Bruce Cordell himself has releases variant rules to address some issues people have had concerns with. [/list=1] Why is it undead can't use powers from the psychometabolism discipline? Oh, yeah, that's right! They don't have a metabolism. (p. 140, PsiHB and the errata that accompanies it.) Which is why my variant psion gains bonus PP from a high CON in addition to bonus points from WIS. It has nothing to do with my "narrow view". How convenient. Let's just give psions Timeless Body at 5th level, or better yet, immortality. :p My point is, a campaign world and a game system requires a certain amount of synchroneity. Characters do age. There will be 70+ year old psions in the world. Does it make sense that there will be plenty of very old high-level, powerful NPC seers, telepaths, and shapers in that world, but no nomads, egoists, or savants of comparable age and power? Not to me.[/list] [/QUOTE]
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