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<blockquote data-quote="jrowland" data-source="post: 6447745" data-attributes="member: 94389"><p>This actually came up in my Wednesday game. Characters traveling along a road - 3 on horseback one on horse and cart, gently rolling plains. </p><p></p><p>Ankehgs attack Set-up: I had each player roll an animal handling check since the horses picked up on the burrowing of the ankhegs and a success meant the PC got to act in the surprise round (all succeeded). </p><p></p><p>Surprise round: Horses act on initiative 10, PCs acting on surprise round roll initiative, then proceed to act accordingly (they actually scanned the skies, lol and stayed put!). The horse and cart PC rolled a 5 initiative, so his horse bolted. On the PCs surprise turn he attempted to regain control of the horse and cart (added proficiency bonus since he has Vehicles(land)).</p><p></p><p>Round one: Ankhegs attack the 3 PCs on horseback looking up while the Horse and Cart PC laughs at the good fortune of a poor initiative roll. Combat ensues.</p><p></p><p>So I used Animal Handling as a "sense motive" type check for the horses, and the Vehicle (land) to regain control of the cart. Had a 'free' horse bolted too, that PC would make a Animal Handling check. I would have allowed a Animal Handling check for the horse and cart too since it was really trying to calm the horse down. But I can see a PC having only one (not both) skills/tools and so the distinction is good. I forget if the PC with the Horse and Cart has both, but he said "My Vehicle(land) is better" and used that when I gave him the choice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jrowland, post: 6447745, member: 94389"] This actually came up in my Wednesday game. Characters traveling along a road - 3 on horseback one on horse and cart, gently rolling plains. Ankehgs attack Set-up: I had each player roll an animal handling check since the horses picked up on the burrowing of the ankhegs and a success meant the PC got to act in the surprise round (all succeeded). Surprise round: Horses act on initiative 10, PCs acting on surprise round roll initiative, then proceed to act accordingly (they actually scanned the skies, lol and stayed put!). The horse and cart PC rolled a 5 initiative, so his horse bolted. On the PCs surprise turn he attempted to regain control of the horse and cart (added proficiency bonus since he has Vehicles(land)). Round one: Ankhegs attack the 3 PCs on horseback looking up while the Horse and Cart PC laughs at the good fortune of a poor initiative roll. Combat ensues. So I used Animal Handling as a "sense motive" type check for the horses, and the Vehicle (land) to regain control of the cart. Had a 'free' horse bolted too, that PC would make a Animal Handling check. I would have allowed a Animal Handling check for the horse and cart too since it was really trying to calm the horse down. But I can see a PC having only one (not both) skills/tools and so the distinction is good. I forget if the PC with the Horse and Cart has both, but he said "My Vehicle(land) is better" and used that when I gave him the choice. [/QUOTE]
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