Virus Removal

The difference is that Dell makes finding instructions on how to swap out hardware readily accessible. But instructions on how to recover from viruses? Not so easy to locate.

Well, to be honest, it is not really their job to tell the user how to recover from a virus. That is in the user's own responsability.

They should, however, explain how to activate the recovery partition (usually by hitting some key during boot).

How do you access Dell’s recovery partition?

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All the systems I have seen come through our place of business have typically nagged one to create the disk if they were not shipped with the machine.

Business machines are a different kettle of fish, though. I know my wife's (personal, non-corporate) laptop didn't nag. And the past two machines I've owned I bought from my employers after they'd already been in use for a couple of years, and so any nagging was done before I'd ever seen the machine.

When I have needed to look up proper use of a system recovery partition I can usually find he info on the support site of the vendor or in their support forums.

When I am swapping out hardware, I know I'm swapping out hardware, and I prepare for the task ahead of time. I know to look up instructions for that particular component.

When you (generic, not you personally) are looking at a laptop mostly dead under a virus or malware load, and you are not an IT professional, you don't know what instructions to look up. It isn't as if most folks actually know the phrase "recovery partition", and that it should be looked up in such situations.

When you're looking at a laptop that's mostly dead, you may not be *able* too look up solutions. My wife's machine had no functional browser while affected.

It is hard to write directions for removing a virus.

Partially true, but mostly false.

It is hard (probably impossible) to write static instructions that will cover all possible scenarios. That I'll grant you is true.

But really, EricNoah gave me a solution in a few sentences. So, we've got empirical evidence that you're incorrect.

If your support organization is geared to actually helping end users (as opposed to IT professionals), you can provide suggestions for procedures and applications in a similar vein, and probably cover the majority of user needs.
 


Business machines are a different kettle of fish, though. I know my wife's (personal, non-corporate) laptop didn't nag. And the past two machines I've owned I bought from my employers after they'd already been in use for a couple of years, and so any nagging was done before I'd ever seen the machine.

Yeah - I can't comment on non-business machines as I am very rarely exposed to machines that are not business machines or machines that I built in which case I have the media in hand to restore from.

As for buying used... That's the risk of buying used. It can be a great way to get a machine cheap that still has life left - especially if you company has a nice rotation cycle. But you have have your recovery options ready if you wish to do so.

Umbran said:
It is hard (probably impossible) to write static instructions that will cover all possible scenarios. That I'll grant you is true.

But really, EricNoah gave me a solution in a few sentences. So, we've got empirical evidence that you're incorrect.

The static bit is the difficult part. Malwarebytes has not always been the go to tool. There have been tools before it and there will be tools after it. And there are still things out there that it does not clean in which case you need to look at another line of tools.

Umbran said:
If your support organization is geared to actually helping end users (as opposed to IT professionals), you can provide suggestions for procedures and applications in a similar vein, and probably cover the majority of user needs.

Well - there are costs for a support organization. If I as a rep of Dell say go run Malwarebytes and it hoses your network stack you will call me back and now I am forced to deal with trying to piece your machine back together because a 3rd party tool I don't support messed up.

Now I do suspect if you called Dell they would help you get started with a system restore. A tool they provide and are in a position to support. And a tool that can clean up the malware mess.

I can't really blame a computer manufacturer for not wanting to refer people to 3rd party tools for fear of the increased support costs when the tool messes something up while it tries to remove the malware.
 

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