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Volo's 5e vs Tasha's 5e where do you see 5e heading?
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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 8283084" data-attributes="member: 6803643"><p>Exactly. Hence why I said yet. I'm not saying they will definitely happen, just that they MAY happen should the above factors align.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Gotcha, you want Eldritch Knight and Arcane Trickster to be separate classes rather than subclasses of Fighter and Rogue. I personally don't see that as making sense since they're literally Fighters and Rogues with spellcasting, but all sorts of splat classes existed in previous editions, so I can see why someone would want such splat classes to fiddle with rather than the far more easy to balance subclasses to fiddle with. WotC seem to be EXTREMELY cautious with publishing entire new classes; they even tried to make the Artificer a Wizard subclass at first. In my view, a whole new class needs to have conceptual space that doesn't step on the toes of any other class. It stands on its own with its own narrative. That's what will stand up to both internal alpha and beta testing and external playtesting through UA. But I understand why one might not agree with that design ethos.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure that "switch to 3rd party product" is the what's going on though. DMs Guild and En5ider, etc, build on a foundation of WotC material. In TCG terms, they're booster pack expansions to the core decks put out by WotC. They can add flavour to your game, but they're not replacements for the game. In late 3rd Edition as the transition to 4th Edition happened, some people found the 3rd-party content was sufficiently a replacement in Pathfinder, but even then they were using it in tandem with their 3.5e era books for a long time before enough revisions had happened that people just dropped 3.5e for a wholescale Pathfinder experience. WotC has reopened the floodgates to 3rd party content a like has not been seen since 3e, but the Pathfinder fork splitting the D&D community has as of yet not occured. MAYBE Morrus will achieve that with LevelUp, but I don't think that's his aim with it. Even though it CAN stand alone, it's clear that anything put out here is playing on the stage that WotC built with 5e. 5e is in no danger of being replaced by competitors.</p><p></p><p>But again, it's your game too, and I'm not urging you to buy anything. I'm just contesting the idea that WotC is somehow ceding sales when it's had its highest year of earning ever yet again (see attachment).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 8283084, member: 6803643"] Exactly. Hence why I said yet. I'm not saying they will definitely happen, just that they MAY happen should the above factors align. Gotcha, you want Eldritch Knight and Arcane Trickster to be separate classes rather than subclasses of Fighter and Rogue. I personally don't see that as making sense since they're literally Fighters and Rogues with spellcasting, but all sorts of splat classes existed in previous editions, so I can see why someone would want such splat classes to fiddle with rather than the far more easy to balance subclasses to fiddle with. WotC seem to be EXTREMELY cautious with publishing entire new classes; they even tried to make the Artificer a Wizard subclass at first. In my view, a whole new class needs to have conceptual space that doesn't step on the toes of any other class. It stands on its own with its own narrative. That's what will stand up to both internal alpha and beta testing and external playtesting through UA. But I understand why one might not agree with that design ethos. I'm not sure that "switch to 3rd party product" is the what's going on though. DMs Guild and En5ider, etc, build on a foundation of WotC material. In TCG terms, they're booster pack expansions to the core decks put out by WotC. They can add flavour to your game, but they're not replacements for the game. In late 3rd Edition as the transition to 4th Edition happened, some people found the 3rd-party content was sufficiently a replacement in Pathfinder, but even then they were using it in tandem with their 3.5e era books for a long time before enough revisions had happened that people just dropped 3.5e for a wholescale Pathfinder experience. WotC has reopened the floodgates to 3rd party content a like has not been seen since 3e, but the Pathfinder fork splitting the D&D community has as of yet not occured. MAYBE Morrus will achieve that with LevelUp, but I don't think that's his aim with it. Even though it CAN stand alone, it's clear that anything put out here is playing on the stage that WotC built with 5e. 5e is in no danger of being replaced by competitors. But again, it's your game too, and I'm not urging you to buy anything. I'm just contesting the idea that WotC is somehow ceding sales when it's had its highest year of earning ever yet again (see attachment). [/QUOTE]
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