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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8285555" data-attributes="member: 93670">Yes I'm quite aware that you would like to limit the discussion entirely to adventures races archtypes and settings that put a new coat of paint on a frozen ruleset that let you play with a new coat of paint  rather than wotc's disregard for mechanics & crunch.  That desire of yours does %not make the areas wotc has been ignoring irrelevant.    You happen to be in one or more of wotc's 35 of 50mil players happy with all or most of their choices & feel like they are meeting your needs well.  I happen to be in one or more of wotc's remaining 15 million customer groups unhappy about their needs being ignored.  Wotc has talked up mechanics for the last two books despite largely avoiding the them in the books themselves & obviously feels like those groups of customers not entirely in the 70% are significant enough to provide lip service to.  Other companies are doing more than providing lip service in their pre-launch hype.  Wotc provides that lip service because 30% of 50 million is still a huge number but other companies are beginning to offer mechanics in addition to a coat of paint.None of the three forks of 5e I listed are made by paizo,I even listed the company names & linked them.  Unlike wotc's 5e settings so far all, of them have significant mechanics changes to fit the coat of paint they bring.  Even if there are elements of 5e that I like enough to continue playing it, I'm not willing to run it any longer  and there are companies that appear to be building mechanics alongside their themed reskin of 5e.</blockquote>

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