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Volo's 5e vs Tasha's 5e where do you see 5e heading?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8290048" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Now, how does that apply to monsters? If I have a tough hide monster, do I get DR? What kind of DR? And, doesn't this basically completely remove the Heavy Armor feat? Just a couple of issues right off the bat.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course they want your money. They want you to buy MORE than one book though. What's the point of selling you a book that means that every other book they produce is no longer of use (or at least is much less useful) to you? And, while you might not care about it not being compatible, I don't think you can speak for everyone. The whole OSR movement is a rounding error when we're talking about the numbers that WotC expects. A single 5e WotC title has likely sold more copies than all the OSR books combined. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It absolutely IS splitting the market. It's splitting their target market (5e players) by making any subsequent purchase more difficult to use. And, remember, before we go putting those goalposts back on roller skates, we're not talking a single change like Armor as DR. We're talking about a shopping list of fundamental game play changes - that list had what, ten, fifteen changes on it? Focusing on one thing, and then claiming how easy it is, misses the point.</p><p></p><p>There is zero chance that WotC is going to do something like this. There is no upside for WotC at all. Sure, you get a book you want, but, no one else wants it, and now, you can't use any other WotC book without first rewriting most of it. So, some enterprising 3rd party publisher starts banging out supplements that use those variant rules. Which module are you going to buy? The WotC offering du jour or that 3rd party module that incorporates your new rule changes? </p><p></p><p>And, let's say that there is a real market there. There is a sizable number of fans that incorporate these variant rules, but, not enough for WotC to directly market to - say, 20% of gamers. WotC is still going to market directly to that 80% - they'd be stupid not to. And poof, they've just created another company who spends the next decade chipping away at all the goodwill WotC has built up over the past decade ("LOOK, THIS company responds to its fans, WotC doesn't care about what you want!") and piggybacking on WotC's marketing dollars. </p><p></p><p>You still haven't provided any upside for WotC to do this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8290048, member: 22779"] Now, how does that apply to monsters? If I have a tough hide monster, do I get DR? What kind of DR? And, doesn't this basically completely remove the Heavy Armor feat? Just a couple of issues right off the bat. Of course they want your money. They want you to buy MORE than one book though. What's the point of selling you a book that means that every other book they produce is no longer of use (or at least is much less useful) to you? And, while you might not care about it not being compatible, I don't think you can speak for everyone. The whole OSR movement is a rounding error when we're talking about the numbers that WotC expects. A single 5e WotC title has likely sold more copies than all the OSR books combined. It absolutely IS splitting the market. It's splitting their target market (5e players) by making any subsequent purchase more difficult to use. And, remember, before we go putting those goalposts back on roller skates, we're not talking a single change like Armor as DR. We're talking about a shopping list of fundamental game play changes - that list had what, ten, fifteen changes on it? Focusing on one thing, and then claiming how easy it is, misses the point. There is zero chance that WotC is going to do something like this. There is no upside for WotC at all. Sure, you get a book you want, but, no one else wants it, and now, you can't use any other WotC book without first rewriting most of it. So, some enterprising 3rd party publisher starts banging out supplements that use those variant rules. Which module are you going to buy? The WotC offering du jour or that 3rd party module that incorporates your new rule changes? And, let's say that there is a real market there. There is a sizable number of fans that incorporate these variant rules, but, not enough for WotC to directly market to - say, 20% of gamers. WotC is still going to market directly to that 80% - they'd be stupid not to. And poof, they've just created another company who spends the next decade chipping away at all the goodwill WotC has built up over the past decade ("LOOK, THIS company responds to its fans, WotC doesn't care about what you want!") and piggybacking on WotC's marketing dollars. You still haven't provided any upside for WotC to do this. [/QUOTE]
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