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<blockquote data-quote="Nac_Mac_Feegle" data-source="post: 2792996" data-attributes="member: 32300"><p>I dont know the warforged, but the guy said his armour was natural, so even though its got a GP value, its not an item, its part of him, more so than a weapon, whihc he is allowed ot carry.</p><p></p><p>My view on it is this</p><p></p><p>The RAW would allow a spell to be cast upon you, and made permanent, and it shouldnt violate your VoP, if it did, then an evil spellcaster could easily remove a VoP character by casting beneficial magic upon him, and then permanancy.</p><p></p><p>However, I think accepting spells being cast upon you <strong>with</strong> the view ot have them made permanent, goes against the spirit. I wouldnt do it on my character, as a player, and I wouldnt like to see a player do it if I was the GM.</p><p></p><p>Someone casting a benefical spell upon me as a reward, that had a duration, I would accept it. Like wise, if someone offered to cast wish on behalf of the VoP I would accept it, but then wish for something like 1million gold, and then start handing it out to charities etc I certainly wouldnt take a wish and use it for personal gain.</p><p></p><p>There is certianly no actual money involved if someone casts wish on you for free, and you chose a stat improvement, but you have taken a very powerful favour and used it for yourself, not the holistic lifestyle you appear to have chosen being VoP.</p><p></p><p>A VoP character owed an actual favour could quite easily ask the person owing the favour, to build a mission in the slums of the town. Thats the way I see a VoP character taking such intangible benefits, and utelising them within the spirit of the VoP. </p><p></p><p>Any outright permanent personal gain to the VoP character to me is a violation of the spirit of the Vow. Of course, its not the VoPs fault if some bugger bestows a title upon you, that sort of thing you have to put up with, but you dont have to tell anyone, just those who know might make you feel embarassed.</p><p></p><p>Feegle Out <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nac_Mac_Feegle, post: 2792996, member: 32300"] I dont know the warforged, but the guy said his armour was natural, so even though its got a GP value, its not an item, its part of him, more so than a weapon, whihc he is allowed ot carry. My view on it is this The RAW would allow a spell to be cast upon you, and made permanent, and it shouldnt violate your VoP, if it did, then an evil spellcaster could easily remove a VoP character by casting beneficial magic upon him, and then permanancy. However, I think accepting spells being cast upon you [b]with[/b] the view ot have them made permanent, goes against the spirit. I wouldnt do it on my character, as a player, and I wouldnt like to see a player do it if I was the GM. Someone casting a benefical spell upon me as a reward, that had a duration, I would accept it. Like wise, if someone offered to cast wish on behalf of the VoP I would accept it, but then wish for something like 1million gold, and then start handing it out to charities etc I certainly wouldnt take a wish and use it for personal gain. There is certianly no actual money involved if someone casts wish on you for free, and you chose a stat improvement, but you have taken a very powerful favour and used it for yourself, not the holistic lifestyle you appear to have chosen being VoP. A VoP character owed an actual favour could quite easily ask the person owing the favour, to build a mission in the slums of the town. Thats the way I see a VoP character taking such intangible benefits, and utelising them within the spirit of the VoP. Any outright permanent personal gain to the VoP character to me is a violation of the spirit of the Vow. Of course, its not the VoPs fault if some bugger bestows a title upon you, that sort of thing you have to put up with, but you dont have to tell anyone, just those who know might make you feel embarassed. Feegle Out :cool: [/QUOTE]
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