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<blockquote data-quote="Ulfgeir" data-source="post: 7887742" data-attributes="member: 7015719"><p>Regarding Trudvagn, a lot of the complaints from us Swedes were that it was using the name "Drakar och Demoner" herafter known as DoD, as it was so different from the previous stuff. Of course the first version of DoD was a translated and ported version of RuneQuest, so that used straight brp (yes it also included humaoid ducks). Then came the expansion DoD Expert, which changed the system to roll d20 under or equal to your skill, it also changed how certain skills were done (normal skills were A-skills and worked like they had in the brp version, but with the scale 1-20. Then you had B-skills for things like languages and acrobatics, they were so if you didn't have the skill you could not even attempt something. the scale there was 1-5, and they were much more expensive to buy).</p><p></p><p>Together with DoD Expert, they created a worldf called Ereb Altor (parts of this world is now used in Kopparhavets Hjältar, after lots of strange and weird legal things). Then they did the 1991-version, which kind of kept the world, but changed the system, introduicng "kit books" that were overpowered. After this they released a version called "DoD Chronopia" which used the 1991 system but changed the world to a huge semi-industrial city... And later came DoD Trudvagn which is a pseudo-nordic John Bauer-inspired setting.</p><p></p><p>And they have also done a 2016-version which is generally reviled by everyone. They promised an old-school version (DoD-expert, with some 1991-stuff in it), it was something completely different. By this time, the company (riotminds) owned the name DoD as well as Ereb Altor, but not most of the material for the setting. Told you it was strange legal stuff (and this is the simplified version as far as I understand it).</p><p></p><p>Never played DoD Trudvagn with the original rules, We used GURPS 4e for it, and that was definitively a mistake.</p><p></p><p>edit: so we had our edition war regarding DoD, and that was largely which version you grew up with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ulfgeir, post: 7887742, member: 7015719"] Regarding Trudvagn, a lot of the complaints from us Swedes were that it was using the name "Drakar och Demoner" herafter known as DoD, as it was so different from the previous stuff. Of course the first version of DoD was a translated and ported version of RuneQuest, so that used straight brp (yes it also included humaoid ducks). Then came the expansion DoD Expert, which changed the system to roll d20 under or equal to your skill, it also changed how certain skills were done (normal skills were A-skills and worked like they had in the brp version, but with the scale 1-20. Then you had B-skills for things like languages and acrobatics, they were so if you didn't have the skill you could not even attempt something. the scale there was 1-5, and they were much more expensive to buy). Together with DoD Expert, they created a worldf called Ereb Altor (parts of this world is now used in Kopparhavets Hjältar, after lots of strange and weird legal things). Then they did the 1991-version, which kind of kept the world, but changed the system, introduicng "kit books" that were overpowered. After this they released a version called "DoD Chronopia" which used the 1991 system but changed the world to a huge semi-industrial city... And later came DoD Trudvagn which is a pseudo-nordic John Bauer-inspired setting. And they have also done a 2016-version which is generally reviled by everyone. They promised an old-school version (DoD-expert, with some 1991-stuff in it), it was something completely different. By this time, the company (riotminds) owned the name DoD as well as Ereb Altor, but not most of the material for the setting. Told you it was strange legal stuff (and this is the simplified version as far as I understand it). Never played DoD Trudvagn with the original rules, We used GURPS 4e for it, and that was definitively a mistake. edit: so we had our edition war regarding DoD, and that was largely which version you grew up with. [/QUOTE]
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