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<blockquote data-quote="Sulicius" data-source="post: 8675729" data-attributes="member: 6896569"><p>EDIT: I was still reading page 20 when I replied… please ignore my ramblings and keep up the good fun!</p><p></p><p>Honestly, if this is how a party wins against a cornered Vecna, then isn’t that fine? They have to use an AMF to block his abilities, which is exactly what you would do against any spellcaster BBEG. Grappling him to keep him there? Looks like reading books didn’t pay off in Vecna’s favor when it came to being swole.</p><p></p><p>This fight will still take ages, which is all I can ask for at this high level.</p><p></p><p>It’s not fun, but to me that is more a problem with building of the encounter and AMF.</p><p></p><p>Also, Treantmonk’s video is an absolute joke. Saying that two characters perfectly built for taking down Vecna are not optimized is stupid. There is NO OTHER class that can do that much damage reliably against Vecna in an empty room at range. Optimizers believe that taking anything other that the best choice in every situation is like ruining the game.</p><p></p><p>And don’t give Vecna the shield spell. Just because he becomes harder to kill doesn’t mean that it is stupid he won’t cast it. Just give him the Book of Vile Darkness to give him some neat upgrades, like casting Simulacrum, +2 AC and negating holy water, potions and spell scrolls within 10 ft.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sulicius, post: 8675729, member: 6896569"] EDIT: I was still reading page 20 when I replied… please ignore my ramblings and keep up the good fun! Honestly, if this is how a party wins against a cornered Vecna, then isn’t that fine? They have to use an AMF to block his abilities, which is exactly what you would do against any spellcaster BBEG. Grappling him to keep him there? Looks like reading books didn’t pay off in Vecna’s favor when it came to being swole. This fight will still take ages, which is all I can ask for at this high level. It’s not fun, but to me that is more a problem with building of the encounter and AMF. Also, Treantmonk’s video is an absolute joke. Saying that two characters perfectly built for taking down Vecna are not optimized is stupid. There is NO OTHER class that can do that much damage reliably against Vecna in an empty room at range. Optimizers believe that taking anything other that the best choice in every situation is like ruining the game. And don’t give Vecna the shield spell. Just because he becomes harder to kill doesn’t mean that it is stupid he won’t cast it. Just give him the Book of Vile Darkness to give him some neat upgrades, like casting Simulacrum, +2 AC and negating holy water, potions and spell scrolls within 10 ft. [/QUOTE]
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