[VtM]Help a newbie out

[Campbell]

It seems like the other Brujah in your game are acting decidedly unlike Brujah. Even when maintaining good relations with the rest of kindred kine, there should be an embrace of independent action and disdain for others imposing their will on the Brujah. The Brujah aren't good little lapdogs.

 

[negZero]

It seems like the other Brujah in your game are acting decidedly unlike Brujah. Even when maintaining good relations with the rest of kindred kine, there should be an embrace of independent action and disdain for others imposing their will on the Brujah. The Brujah aren't good little lapdogs.

I think he expects all Brujah to act like stereotypic gangster of one or another. My primogen is actually described as Tony Montana without the coke. Before someone says while thats just one, they all act like stereotypic gangsters just from different periods/movies.

 

[SnowleopardVK]

In my experience WoD NPCs will pretty much always tell the new vampire/werewolf/whatever to shut up and ignore the majority of, if not all attempts from said newbies to roleplay. That changes around after a while and does so faster if you all started as newbies (woe unto you if you're new to the system and came in later than the other players), but I've only ever actually seen the newbie taken seriously once.

(In that one case I've seen where the newbie got to talk, I was playing a musclehead newbie and another PC was the charismatic, long-time veteran Other PC wouldn't stop bothering our NPC boss who clearly wanted to be left alone however, so I eventually just dragged the other PC out of the room, seniority or not. The NPC began taking me more seriously than the charismatic vet after that, despite my status as the "new kid" and my lack of charisma compared to the other guy.)

My experience with WoD has admittedly left me somewhat jaded towards the system. To be fair, it really depends on the storyteller. A lot of STs that I've seen, especially in vampire, will play EVERY single NPC you meet as a jerk. Establishing yourself as a character whose opinions NPCs actually care about, and whose words they want to listen to takes a lot of time and a lot of patience (and when I say a lot, I mean a LOT).

 

[negZero]

Update Bump


So two sessions have came and past, and damn was it boring. Lets start it off with what I've done

First Session:

Go see the Sheriff, to see this job of his entails. Sat down and told me how suspects that local Anarchs are assisting the Sabbat. He wants me to go to bar he suspects is hangout for them and but I can't go inside. So far so good. This finally gives me something that will really let me flex my character. Go off get a camera just in case and start staking out the bar waiting for something to happen. And wait. And wait. And wait. Something finally happened when I decided to leave due to dawn approaching, one of Anarchs got on a bike and left! Pulled out the camera and got him on tape.

So I go see the Sheriff, show him the tape and get told to go watch the bar again. But this time am suppose to call in if I see the Anarch. See the Anarch, call the number, and then get told to go home. WTF


Second Session:

My coterie gets vision of plot and start fighting over what to do about it. Knowing that this stuff is out of all of our specialties and pay grade, I decide go to the local friendly Tremere. Who tells me that (A) its a vision (B) go see the Tremere Primogen or seneschal for more information. He also explains to me the proper way to talk to his primogen, this must be important so I write it down. Call them asking them if they know anything about visions of plot, and arrange a meeting with them and my coterie. Once at the Elysium, my coterie begins browbeats me for actually doing something, with one of them at point wanting to actual attack me in the Elysium. Only to be interrupted when the Primogen arrives, go to a back room and Ventrue tries to explain the vision but screws up the greeting. Yep the Brujah still the only person who can talk to someone with rank and not piss them off. However the Storyteller while in character just sighs and calmly corrects him. WTF, what was the point of explaining how to talk to him if he doesn't care

Some more plot happens during the night and even to the start of the next one. I spend an hour in real time doing nothing but waiting for my turn. As he goes in extreme detail over how much the Malkavian screwed up by defacing museum Elysium (he talks to dead people, mummies were present, fail self-control). I sit there still waiting for my turn. Eventually he comes to me says "Are you going to do anything important there? Really want to go back to wrap this (points to the Malk player) up". Whatever, you know am just player that has complained about being bored and wanting to do stuff. I let him go off and finish that. While I am bored, Malk player is actually entertaining.

Big plot reveal happens at our haven. Someone who we thought died back during our embrace and hes attacking us. O sweet, an enemy that is near the same strength as me, while am heavily armed and filled with blood. Man this is a time to really shine. He takes down the Toreador and Ventrue using combination of Thanatosis and stakes. NP, I got a gun and a lot bullets. I get crit shot off on him and nothing. Whatever, I got an escape tunnel that leads to the sewers and a Nosferatu guide nearby. Go down into the tunnel, tell the Nosferatu we need back up, I know back up, and he should guide me to quickest way out.

Nosferatu: "Screw this, Obfuscate"
Me: "Am looking right at you"
Nosferatu: "I go around the corner"
Me: "Two points in celerity, do you really want to get in foot race with me"

Me and him go back forth like this for a while. Eventually I just give up and force him to call his Primogen. Malkavian goes down when tries to save the 2 guys that have been staked. Okay batter up, I got clip full of bullets and machete. Tell the ST I go into ambush... nope wait, he gets you first with a stake. Soak with all 10s, it was the only thing that made me smile. Okay hurt but still standing and moving. I return the favour by hitting him with pistol whip fuelled with as much blood as I can spend in a turn. He takes it, WTF. He responds back by slamming the stake in deeper. Your now Mauled.

Me: "WTF. The Toreador and Ventrue are only crippled and they were one shot with Thanatosis and stakes."
ST: "Blood and potence"
Me: *sigh* "Railroading mary sue"

 

[the Jester]

I guess the bright side is that you finally had a tough fight?

 

[negZero]

I guess the bright side is that you finally had a tough fight?

I've had tough fights. Both of my torpor incidents came from tough fights. This was just curb stomp battle. A bad curb stomp battle, just because the next plot point demands that were all captured. While discounting the Nosferatu who ran into the sewers, the ST gave props for that move. And he wonders why I say I don't have a coterie.