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<blockquote data-quote="Graf" data-source="post: 4067093" data-attributes="member: 3087"><p>Hmm.</p><p>I don't usually like to get into things this way but...</p><p>There are two reasons why I'm not in love with this sort of responce:</p><p></p><p>One:</p><p>How, IC, does Biggs know anything about Werewolves?</p><p>In the world of darkness this stuff is a secret. S-E-C-R-E-T means you don't know about it.</p><p>Biggs background doesn't include lupines.</p><p>At all.</p><p></p><p>That means he doesn't know <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> about them.</p><p></p><p>Two:</p><p>I've mentioned this a few times but just because it's in a book somewhere and you've read it (and I presume Warshrike, you're talking as Warshrike and not as Biggs because he doesn't know anything about it) doesn't mean that it'll be true in the game.</p><p></p><p>I don't mind metagame discussions about stuff, per se, but to be honest I loath metagaming driven IC stuff.</p><p>If you want to make an IC reason to do something you'd never normally do talk to me OOC/make an OOC post. </p><p></p><p></p><p>You've asserted this several times.</p><p>For the life of me I can't figure out why.</p><p>Who said they were scared? Why does Biggs think this?</p><p>(and, for that matter, why does Warshrike think this...)</p><p></p><p>I've looked through my posts and I didn't see anything like this. I know I can make typos or soemthing but i haven't even found a typo.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're OOC opinion has been noted.</p><p>This is an OOC opinion right?</p><p></p><p></p><p>As for what people expect....</p><p>Biggs background, selected entirely by you, is that he's a </p><p>mortal, who hunts vampires</p><p>solo,</p><p>with a sword</p><p></p><p>That's suicidal behavor.</p><p>OOC Vastly more suicidal, honestly, than fighting a werewolf.</p><p></p><p>IC What does LB expect? Since you volunteered to do something he probably expects you to do it.</p><p>You can not do it: and there are like 5 ways the group could 1) not go after merchant 2) still not get in trouble with LB (That I can think of) but there are no ways that involve telling LB "You're scared of werewolves you big pussy, why should I go do it?"</p><p></p><p>I'm not a huge fan of this- kind of trouble with LB because</p><p>1. It has the potential for characters to be torpored, semi-permenently</p><p>2. It has the potential for the characters to wind up with a permenet chaparone.</p><p></p><p>I don't mind people not going after Merchant, at all, but it doesn't make sense that you're using OOC info to assert soemthing that isn't true IC, and it will end up, most probably with the non-dramatic, non-fun result of Biggs getting staked and dropped in a hole in the ground.</p><p></p><p>If you didn't want to get sent after your sires OOC this badly, why did you leap forward and announce that you would yesterday? (in game terms?)</p><p></p><p>It wasn't a forgone conclusion, btw. There were other possibilities but you've kind of made your bed, it's a strange time to suddenly assert that you don't like it.</p><p>If you'd, IC, tried for Merchant and he'd turned out to be a methusala, or you'd met lupines and they'd kicked your asses IC at some point already I'd understand it.</p><p></p><p>I'd understand more conservative characters balking or wanting to get info. </p><p>But I don't understand, really, Biggs suddenly being possessed of massive fear of lupines (which he's never met and knows nothing about).</p><p></p><p>Again, I realize you have (or think you have) lots of special OOC info about how dangerous the situation is. But I encourage you to think in terms of what your characters would do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Graf, post: 4067093, member: 3087"] Hmm. I don't usually like to get into things this way but... There are two reasons why I'm not in love with this sort of responce: One: How, IC, does Biggs know anything about Werewolves? In the world of darkness this stuff is a secret. S-E-C-R-E-T means you don't know about it. Biggs background doesn't include lupines. At all. That means he doesn't know :):):):) about them. Two: I've mentioned this a few times but just because it's in a book somewhere and you've read it (and I presume Warshrike, you're talking as Warshrike and not as Biggs because he doesn't know anything about it) doesn't mean that it'll be true in the game. I don't mind metagame discussions about stuff, per se, but to be honest I loath metagaming driven IC stuff. If you want to make an IC reason to do something you'd never normally do talk to me OOC/make an OOC post. You've asserted this several times. For the life of me I can't figure out why. Who said they were scared? Why does Biggs think this? (and, for that matter, why does Warshrike think this...) I've looked through my posts and I didn't see anything like this. I know I can make typos or soemthing but i haven't even found a typo. You're OOC opinion has been noted. This is an OOC opinion right? As for what people expect.... Biggs background, selected entirely by you, is that he's a mortal, who hunts vampires solo, with a sword That's suicidal behavor. OOC Vastly more suicidal, honestly, than fighting a werewolf. IC What does LB expect? Since you volunteered to do something he probably expects you to do it. You can not do it: and there are like 5 ways the group could 1) not go after merchant 2) still not get in trouble with LB (That I can think of) but there are no ways that involve telling LB "You're scared of werewolves you big pussy, why should I go do it?" I'm not a huge fan of this- kind of trouble with LB because 1. It has the potential for characters to be torpored, semi-permenently 2. It has the potential for the characters to wind up with a permenet chaparone. I don't mind people not going after Merchant, at all, but it doesn't make sense that you're using OOC info to assert soemthing that isn't true IC, and it will end up, most probably with the non-dramatic, non-fun result of Biggs getting staked and dropped in a hole in the ground. If you didn't want to get sent after your sires OOC this badly, why did you leap forward and announce that you would yesterday? (in game terms?) It wasn't a forgone conclusion, btw. There were other possibilities but you've kind of made your bed, it's a strange time to suddenly assert that you don't like it. If you'd, IC, tried for Merchant and he'd turned out to be a methusala, or you'd met lupines and they'd kicked your asses IC at some point already I'd understand it. I'd understand more conservative characters balking or wanting to get info. But I don't understand, really, Biggs suddenly being possessed of massive fear of lupines (which he's never met and knows nothing about). Again, I realize you have (or think you have) lots of special OOC info about how dangerous the situation is. But I encourage you to think in terms of what your characters would do. [/QUOTE]
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