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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Graf" data-source="post: 4067371" data-attributes="member: 3087">Eh?Taken out of context... I.e. just that one line? I could see a lawyer trying to make that arguement.It's obvious that LB's not talking about gear. Both he and blackcoat obviously wander around unarmed. Both you and Archer have actually fought blackcoat and she took you apart with her bare hands.If this were a court of law and you were arguing contracts you might get some sort of nod from the judge.You're welcome to throw that back in LBs face and see where it gets you.I mean that completely neutrally. He may buy that it was just a misunderstanding.Of course you're then saying"You promised to give me something, you didn't so I'm not gonna do <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> for you"Which suggests you don't take his being a prince too seriously.OK. That's a start. But a lot of stuff below is actually stuff that Biggs doesn't know.This is kinda a bizaare thing to say, but you're familiar with in character and out of character right?Everybody's been roleplaying extremely well, so I'd assumed people had some rping experience.Basically: IN CHARACTER means "Things your character knows".OUT OF CHARACTER means "Things the player knows"Generally the player knows a lot more than the character, and there is a tendency for people, especially people who are more gamist (i.e. oriented toward winning) to try to use that OOC information IC.(I.e. My character doesn't know that the answer to the riddle is "Time" because he was unconcious, but the player knows because he heard another player answer the DM. So I'll just make it so my character knows that too and I can solve the riddle too)Generally using OOC info IC is frowned upon.Cute.Cole is in the car with you. If Biggs wanted to find out more about Lupines he could just ask Cole.Nice said he "Just found out." Since he hadn't heard of Merchant, at all the night before you can presume that he'd really just found out. I think this is a massive stretch.5 isn't true.2 isn't a reason. If Biggs thought Cole was warning you about lupines then he'd ask him.I don't know how to put it but Biggs does not have Auspex.On one hand this is a good catch.On the other hand?It's got nothing to do with lupines, (i.e. 1-6).Your reason for not going was because Merchant is staying in the edge of lupine territory, which is too difficult/dangerous to cross.If you want Auspex you can swing your unspent discipline dot into Auspex and have it.(So you'd be Auspex *, Protean **)Or you can make friends with Beth or Archer.At the risk of stating the obvious: The spoiler blocks aren't labed AUSPEX - BETH & ARCHER because they're for Biggs.You can:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">IC try to steer the conversation towards getting info from the other characters (I.e. I'd like to go after Merchant, but I think there may be more going on)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">OOC post saying you'd like it if people share a tidbit for whatever reason.</li> </ul>IC or OOC?IF it's IC:Who talked about hunting werewolves?When?Why?If Biggs thinks they need more equipment why isn't he getting it? You were asserting a minute ago that he was operating on horror movies (which is perfectly reasonable). Wouldn't he want silver bullets (for instance).If it's OOC?One this is kinda academic, but vampires are killed by two things: fire and sunlight.Is it possible that the group could role through a hypothetical Lupine territory and get stomped.Yah, sure  You'd take a bunch of lethal wounds and wanting a bit of blood for sure. I haven't, for the record, decided whether the werewolves in the game are WtF werewolves or what not. (All those gift lists give me a headache).But you've got disciplines (IMHO much better than gifts), vampires do agg damage naturally, werewolves do lethal, vampires can feed on dead lupines and heal, lupines have to run of into the woods, shake their furry heinies under the moon for a while and spend essence to heal.It would be a pretty fair fight (i.e. it would come down to a question of situation and "who's the most optimized in terms of combat).Mortal vs vampire?Mortal dies.If mortal has lots of great skills, good equipment, the element of suprise, and lots of good die rolls?The mortal may surivive once or twice before dying. (this, btw, is how I see biggs and why Biggs was fighting a ghoul during his prelude. A kindred would just have been too risky/hard to explain.).The new WoD game, Hunter?It's got lots of new powers and abilities because?The ones in the core book aren't enough to take down a supernatural.IMHO, natch.The problem really is that without a stake all that happens is the vampire runs low on blood, then they frenzy grapple and drink, the mortal succumbs to the kiss.It's fairly obvious I think that LB was talking about your relative power levels.He led off with a sermon on self-reliance, not on one that said: Every time you want some material good then come to me and I'll buy it for you.***************************For that matter what would you do with all this gear you seem to want?Lets assume that you had two swords, a gattling gun on the back of the car, some M-16s, and grenades.You roll up to the motel where Merchant is supposed to be staying and? What?You're on the "edge" of lupine terrotorry. So there could be some lupine around somewhere, what do you do? Open up with the gattling gun on the first hairy guy you see? Maybe follow up with a grenade and then close into melee dual weilding?This would help you investigate/find Merchant how exactly?You would explain this breach of the Masquarade (and probable irritation of the lupines) by saying...?And I'm not even going to talk about the problems you'd have with the police/national guard/etc.</blockquote>

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