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<blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 6248737" data-attributes="member: 6701124"><p>I thought some of the fluff changes were more than minor and seemed tied into the cosmology/backstory like @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=95493" target="_blank">Tovec</a></u></strong></em>; is arguing too. ( @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=11697" target="_blank">Shemeska</a></u></strong></em>; 's point in post #90 seemed to me like a plausible reason as to why they might want to do this.)</p><p></p><p>As one example from the monster descriptions, the giants are now as much elemental as humanoid (is one of them in the picture actually animated rocks?), they enslaved the dwarves, the azer are actually dwarves now, and the galeb duhr are former dwarves too (instead of rock-ent's from 2e). WotC even explicitly said that the cosmology is what allowed them to make these changes: <a href="https://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4ex/20080512b" target="_blank">https://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4ex/20080512b</a></p><p></p><p>In a lot of the racial descriptions the campaign setting tie-in is put in a lot later in the descriptions and less intrusively so than I remembered. The biggest exception seems to be the Tieflings where the description starts right off with Bael Turath and their conflict with the Dragonborn - which ties the Dragonborn down specifically to Arkhosia. That and the change in appearance seemed pretty large. </p><p></p><p>The Eladrin and Deva also forcibly disconnected 4e from the previous fluff if they are matched up to the high elves (as the PhB does) and the aasimar (as the FRPG does). Was the former's change decided on before or after the increased importance of the Feywild in the cosmology? Was the later's change pushed along by the default campaign induced change to the Tiefling background or decided before that?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cadence, post: 6248737, member: 6701124"] I thought some of the fluff changes were more than minor and seemed tied into the cosmology/backstory like @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=95493"]Tovec[/URL][/U][/B][/I]; is arguing too. ( @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=11697"]Shemeska[/URL][/U][/B][/I]; 's point in post #90 seemed to me like a plausible reason as to why they might want to do this.) As one example from the monster descriptions, the giants are now as much elemental as humanoid (is one of them in the picture actually animated rocks?), they enslaved the dwarves, the azer are actually dwarves now, and the galeb duhr are former dwarves too (instead of rock-ent's from 2e). WotC even explicitly said that the cosmology is what allowed them to make these changes: [URL]https://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4ex/20080512b[/URL] In a lot of the racial descriptions the campaign setting tie-in is put in a lot later in the descriptions and less intrusively so than I remembered. The biggest exception seems to be the Tieflings where the description starts right off with Bael Turath and their conflict with the Dragonborn - which ties the Dragonborn down specifically to Arkhosia. That and the change in appearance seemed pretty large. The Eladrin and Deva also forcibly disconnected 4e from the previous fluff if they are matched up to the high elves (as the PhB does) and the aasimar (as the FRPG does). Was the former's change decided on before or after the increased importance of the Feywild in the cosmology? Was the later's change pushed along by the default campaign induced change to the Tiefling background or decided before that? [/QUOTE]
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