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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aulirophile" data-source="post: 5481307" data-attributes="member: 86312"><a href="http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/23061901/A_Rock_and_A_Hard_Place:_A_Warden_Handbook" target="_blank">Whoops! Browser Settings Incompatible</a>At Epic Martial Classes have a feat that allows them another use of Second Wind. You have to MC to get and have Con 19 (which you will, no big). Dwarves are, far and away, the strongest Warden race because they can Second Wind as a Minor, something you will seriously consider doing every encounter as a Warden. Goliaths and Warforged are probably tied for second. If you do MC Fighter wait till level 11 and take Battle Awareness as your MC Feat (you'll qualify when all your stats go up by 1 at 11th).MCing Fighter is just ridiculous. They have the best Defender feats of any Defender, and the PPs available to them are just better then the Warden ones (though the Warden has a couple good ones they don't really compare).  If you want to avoid the Shift+Charge issue you can take Stoneblessed  as your PP, Goliath racial PP. It will permanently increase your Reach  by 1 at level 11. It would also work well with wielding a 2-hander. ====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======level 11Goliath, Warden, StoneblessedBuild: Earth WardenGuardian Might: EarthstrengthFINAL ABILITY SCORESStr 21, Con 21, Dex 13, Int 11, Wis 13, Cha 9.STARTING ABILITY SCORESStr 16, Con 16, Dex 12, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 8.AC: 26 Fort: 25 Reflex: 21 Will: 22HP: 108 Surges: 14 Surge Value: 27TRAINED SKILLSNature +13, Perception +11, Endurance +15, Athletics +17, Heal +11UNTRAINED SKILLSAcrobatics +6, Arcana +5, Bluff +4, Diplomacy +4, Dungeoneering +6, History +5, Insight +6, Intimidate +4, Religion +5, Stealth +6, Streetwise +4, Thievery +6FEATSLevel 1: Goliath Greatweapon ProwessLevel 2: Bludgeon ExpertiseLevel 4: Improved DefensesLevel 6: Sudden RootsLevel 8: Guard of StoneLevel 10: Improved Initiative (retrained to Armor Specialization (Hide) at Level 11)Level 11: Battle AwarenessPOWERSWarden at-will 1: Weight of EarthWarden at-will 1: Thorn StrikeWarden encounter 1: Roots of StoneWarden daily 1: Form of Winter's HeraldWarden utility 2: Inspiring FortitudeWarden encounter 3: Earthgrasp StrikeWarden daily 5: Form of Mountain's ThunderWarden utility 6: Treacherous IceWarden encounter 7: Guardian's PounceWarden daily 9: Form of the Oak SentinelWarden utility 10: Reactive SurgeITEMSMaw of the Guardian Maul +2, Battle Harness Hide Armor +2, Cloak of the Walking Wounded +2, Boots of Quickness (heroic tier), Iron Armbands of Power (heroic tier), Strikebacks (heroic tier)====== Copy to Clipboard and Press the Import Button on the Summary Tab ======Something like that. Retrain Thorn Strike to Tempest Assault at level 12. There is another strong option which is MCing Warlord. Gives you access to the Martial feats, and there is an amazing PP called Earthfast Brigadier... but ideally you want to be a Dwarf, since it doesn't stack up as well without SW as a Minor.</blockquote>

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