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Warforged and the Monk - doable?
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<blockquote data-quote="Zephyrus" data-source="post: 2651209" data-attributes="member: 8728"><p>To derail the thread off the Imp. Nat. Atk route for the moment..</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>First, I dont have the book handy... but can you get both tracery's at the same time or does getting one exclude getting the other tracery (I Thouht it was the latter but I dont have the book handy). And I dont really want to start a whole new debate here... but where does it say that the Tracery's can affect unarmed strikes? I thought it only affected the natural attacks (primarly the Slam attacks and I assume also the bite if that feat is taken). </p><p></p><p>The other issue is why bother with Bracers of armor at all. Bracers are much more expensive than a simple armor enhancement. As for +10 in Non-Base attack.. at best it'll be +9 as your still requried to have a Minimum +1 enHANCEment bonus before you can start applying special properties. It would be less expensive to enhance the Composite Plating with an armor enhancement and add in a few special properties. It might not be as great as Bracers (Armor Bonus of 7 [Base 2 plus +5 Enhancement] vs Bracers AC 8). The only real advantage of going the Bracers of Armor route would be that the Bracers are a force affect and that you could get +9 levels worth of special abilities on the composite plating vs +5 Enhancement and +5 Special Abilities. The latter is alot less expensive and more practical expecially if you consider many of the special abilities in 3.5 have direct GP costs instead of Enhancement level equivalents. In addition the Armor bonus to AC wouldent stack so the +1 Enhancement would have to be paid 'just' so you could add special abilities and their would be no value in having bracers untill the Bracer's AC was at least 4 which is a serious magic item compared to a +2 Enhancement on armor (a mear 4,000 vs 16,000 for Bracers AC 4).</p><p></p><p>Also, while the Battlefist is all nice and dandy... its also expensive and wouldent it be also better to simple take enhancements directly to the Warforged Monk's fists/hands. Since the Warforged can be enhanced directly their's no magic items to be stolen etc. Yes, it requires someone to do it vs getting it as Treasure but I would figure a Warforged Monk would draw less attention not having a battlefist and being loaded down with magic items.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zephyrus, post: 2651209, member: 8728"] To derail the thread off the Imp. Nat. Atk route for the moment.. First, I dont have the book handy... but can you get both tracery's at the same time or does getting one exclude getting the other tracery (I Thouht it was the latter but I dont have the book handy). And I dont really want to start a whole new debate here... but where does it say that the Tracery's can affect unarmed strikes? I thought it only affected the natural attacks (primarly the Slam attacks and I assume also the bite if that feat is taken). The other issue is why bother with Bracers of armor at all. Bracers are much more expensive than a simple armor enhancement. As for +10 in Non-Base attack.. at best it'll be +9 as your still requried to have a Minimum +1 enHANCEment bonus before you can start applying special properties. It would be less expensive to enhance the Composite Plating with an armor enhancement and add in a few special properties. It might not be as great as Bracers (Armor Bonus of 7 [Base 2 plus +5 Enhancement] vs Bracers AC 8). The only real advantage of going the Bracers of Armor route would be that the Bracers are a force affect and that you could get +9 levels worth of special abilities on the composite plating vs +5 Enhancement and +5 Special Abilities. The latter is alot less expensive and more practical expecially if you consider many of the special abilities in 3.5 have direct GP costs instead of Enhancement level equivalents. In addition the Armor bonus to AC wouldent stack so the +1 Enhancement would have to be paid 'just' so you could add special abilities and their would be no value in having bracers untill the Bracer's AC was at least 4 which is a serious magic item compared to a +2 Enhancement on armor (a mear 4,000 vs 16,000 for Bracers AC 4). Also, while the Battlefist is all nice and dandy... its also expensive and wouldent it be also better to simple take enhancements directly to the Warforged Monk's fists/hands. Since the Warforged can be enhanced directly their's no magic items to be stolen etc. Yes, it requires someone to do it vs getting it as Treasure but I would figure a Warforged Monk would draw less attention not having a battlefist and being loaded down with magic items. [/QUOTE]
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