Warhammer Monster book for d20
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tylerthehobo
Explorer
The Ptolus stuff from Monte Cook had rat people, aberrations and more - very Warhammer feel for d20/3.5.
the Jester
Legend
I'd imagine there are legal issues with doing an actual book of WH monsters for another system.
That's your answer.
There was an attempt during 3.5 to get the rights -- I wish I could remember which company -- but Games Workshop is very protective of their intellectual property. Given how much money they make from it, I would be too.
Regardless, I'm just chiming in to point you to the Old World Beastiary. It's for the 2e version of the Warhammer Fantasy rules and is *not* D20 compatible. It is, however, one of the best monster books I have EVER read.
About 3/4 of the book is the kind of information that a Knowledge check might reveal -- character stories, anecdotes, what the peasantry 'knows' about such creatures... some of which is contradictory and all of which is very flavorful.
The last quarter of the book is the Warhammer stat blocks. As far as I know, there isn't a conversion. I really wish more monster supplements were written to this level of quality, though. The book is excellent.
frankthedm
First Post
Just a few critters here and there...
MHB Kruthik = WH 40,000 Tyranids, notably the hormagaunt
MM3 Blackscale lizardfolk = Warhammer Kroxigor
MM3 Poison dusk lizardfolk = Warhammer Skink
MM3 Ibixan = Warhammer Beastman
MM5 Blackwing = Carrion
Desdichado
Hero
Although, on the other hand, very few of their monsters are truly unique. There'd be good analogs (in stats at least, if not necessarily flavor) to pretty much anything in the OGC if you spent a little bit of time collating it.There was an attempt during 3.5 to get the rights -- I wish I could remember which company -- but Games Workshop is very protective of their intellectual property. Given how much money they make from it, I would be too.
I haven't yet found one for pink horrors, who split into two blue horrors when killed, but then again, I can wing that easily enough if needed.
the Jester
Legend
IIRC the first Creature Collection also had ratmen, which were skaven stand-ins.
However, that book was full of... issues. It had a ton of cool monsters, many of which were overpowered for their CR.
However, that book was full of... issues. It had a ton of cool monsters, many of which were overpowered for their CR.
frankthedm
First Post
IIRC were not those the ones with Ron Spencer art?
Wotc was pretty bad too back in 3.0. Ogres and most Dragons notably. Also I thought i read somewhere S&SS was working from play test rules to get CC1 out the door to coincide with the 3.0 PHB.
SHARK
First Post
Greetings!
"SLAVES TO DARKNESS"--1988; and "THE LOST AND THE DAMNED"--1990
LINK:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realm_of_Chaos_(Warhammer)
Yes. A thousand times yes! These two ancient volumes--long out of print, extremely rare, and I have heard can easily be sold for *hundreds* of dollars, *each*--are each like a nuclear shark covered in chocolate sauce ripping into your brains and inspiring you like some crazed maniac for weeks and months at a time with campaign ideas, adventure ideas, concepts for NPC's, lots of different stories and backgrounds, plots, sanity-blasting mutations and horrid, delicious inspiration for thousands of new creatures, as well as epic stories and adventures, and well, lots of mind-blowingly cool monsters that you will stay awake hours into the deep of night feverishly--and gleefully--converting to the D&D system of your choice...yes, you will laugh and shriek maniacally as a new day dawns on your hapless and smug players...
--for now, within your blood-soaked, defiled hands, lie the keys to unlocking absolute creative genius and oceans of inspiration for your campaign, even if it is at the risk of shredding and warping your sanity-blasted psyche and casting your mortal form into the seas of Chaos...yes, my friend...you, too...will know it is all worth the journey...
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!
LOL. Well, my glowing, crazy hyberbole aside, the books really are special. I own both of them. They are truly brilliant, flavourful and awesome. I highly recommend them, for you will treasure them both. Yes, even though you will have to do the leg-work of creating stuff for your campaign, just reading the twisted stuff in these books along the way is a real treat. And, I might also add, you know the old saying, "A picture is worth a thousand words!"?--well, these two books are illustrated in ways I don't think artists nowadays can even comprehend. The books are masterfully illustrated with such wicked inspiration, that yeah, just you casually flipping through the black and white illustrations will have your mind literally spinning with ideas, and you'll no doubt feel yourself mutteirng at every picture or two..."Damn...that's wicked..."Whoa, man...so cool...lots of ideas here...wow, what the eff is going on there?...Hmmm...damn, that's just bizarre and so awesome..." and so on. They're that kind of level of inspiration.
Get them, my friend, if you can. Even at $100 dollars each, and more, they are worth it. They are, in so many ways, unique, and incomparable. You can search back the TWENTY YEARS since they were both published, and there's never been anything nearly as inspiring when it comes to similar monster material.
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
"SLAVES TO DARKNESS"--1988; and "THE LOST AND THE DAMNED"--1990
LINK:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realm_of_Chaos_(Warhammer)
Yes. A thousand times yes! These two ancient volumes--long out of print, extremely rare, and I have heard can easily be sold for *hundreds* of dollars, *each*--are each like a nuclear shark covered in chocolate sauce ripping into your brains and inspiring you like some crazed maniac for weeks and months at a time with campaign ideas, adventure ideas, concepts for NPC's, lots of different stories and backgrounds, plots, sanity-blasting mutations and horrid, delicious inspiration for thousands of new creatures, as well as epic stories and adventures, and well, lots of mind-blowingly cool monsters that you will stay awake hours into the deep of night feverishly--and gleefully--converting to the D&D system of your choice...yes, you will laugh and shriek maniacally as a new day dawns on your hapless and smug players...
--for now, within your blood-soaked, defiled hands, lie the keys to unlocking absolute creative genius and oceans of inspiration for your campaign, even if it is at the risk of shredding and warping your sanity-blasted psyche and casting your mortal form into the seas of Chaos...yes, my friend...you, too...will know it is all worth the journey...
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!
LOL.
Well, my glowing, crazy hyberbole aside, the books really are special. I own both of them. They are truly brilliant, flavourful and awesome. I highly recommend them, for you will treasure them both. Yes, even though you will have to do the leg-work of creating stuff for your campaign, just reading the twisted stuff in these books along the way is a real treat. And, I might also add, you know the old saying, "A picture is worth a thousand words!"?--well, these two books are illustrated in ways I don't think artists nowadays can even comprehend. The books are masterfully illustrated with such wicked inspiration, that yeah, just you casually flipping through the black and white illustrations will have your mind literally spinning with ideas, and you'll no doubt feel yourself mutteirng at every picture or two..."Damn...that's wicked..."Whoa, man...so cool...lots of ideas here...wow, what the eff is going on there?...Hmmm...damn, that's just bizarre and so awesome..." and so on. They're that kind of level of inspiration.Get them, my friend, if you can. Even at $100 dollars each, and more, they are worth it. They are, in so many ways, unique, and incomparable. You can search back the TWENTY YEARS since they were both published, and there's never been anything nearly as inspiring when it comes to similar monster material.
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
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