Warlock Multiclass

Sarck

First Post
Is it just me or is the Pact Initiate feat for multiclassing as warlock extremely useless?

Here're my problems:

Pact Initiate gives you the ability to pursue a warlock paragon path based on the pact. All the warlock paragon paths require either A: the pact boon to use the abilities (as in the Feytouched's path feature of Patron's favor which uses Misty Step) or B: the Warlock's Curse, which you cannot get without being a warlock and which almost all the powers use to actually work (Doomsayer, Feytouched, and Life-Stealer all have class features that cause extra damage, give a bonus to attack, or are enabled by Warlocks's Curse, and powers that work off Warlock's Curse or a class feature that works off it in turn).

Here is a key example of this problem: Mutliclass Wizard/Warlock takes Infernal pact and gets the Infernal at-will power (Hellish Rebuke) as an enounter power. Later he takes the Infernal Paragon path, Life-Stealer. Life-Stealer's abilities all work off of the class feature Collect Life Spark, which gives you a life spark whenever a creature dies while under your Warlock's Curse. The power Soul Scorch does less damage without a life spark, while Life Spark Summons simply doesn't work without a life spark as you have no life spark to expend. Soultheft is the last daily ability, and it gives you a life spark if you kill someone with it, but it is _daily_ and would require a wildly unlikely thing (the use of a daily ability to activate a utility and empower an encounter, but only for a small advantage). Admittedly, you can still use the paragon path, but why would you?

In the case of the Doomsayer, you place a non-existent Warlock's Curse upon your target with one utility power, and with the Feytouched, you have a power that only triggers if you can place your Warlock's Curse on something and kill it afterwards. Why would anyone go for these choices? Should there be a house-rule that getting Pact Initiate gives you Warlock's Curse and/or the Pact Boon instead of the at-will power? Or what?
 

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Pact Initiate isn't particularly good for taking warlock paragon paths if you're limited to the three in the PHB. That doesn't make it useless, as it still unlocks the later multiclassing feats, paragon multiclassing, and access to any warlock feats or later PPs. Not to mention giving you skill training and an extra encounter power.
 

Just as in 3.x, not all classes are equally well suited to multiclassing. No one will be multiclassing so they can get a warlock paragon path. I think multiclassing into warlock will be best suited to grabbing a few powers or full on multiclassing in place of a paragon path.

Fighters, for example, will be very well suited, with their high con scores, to getting some ranged powers they can mark with and add some nasty effects to.
 

Warlock Paragon Paths are useless for multi-classing into.

However, there are a bunch of good Warlock utility powers that anyone might want.

Cheers, -- N
 

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