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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7890928" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>No one just "had two attacks" in 4e or 3e. But, in the Marshal's native 3e everyone with the BAB for it got iterative attacks, the distinction was BAB progression, full, 3/4, or 1/2. </p><p></p><p>The only 3/4 BAB class to get Extra Attack in 5e is the Monk - and, that's the template we're using. </p><p></p><p>So not a total non-sequitor.</p><p></p><p>Likewise, neither the Marshal nor the Monk heal others, nor is the Monk at all a support class (it's generally been a striker or "5th wheel") and, given the choice to build a 5e Marshal using the Monk as template - both made before the thread went public - it just didn't seem like healing could be too important a priority.</p><p></p><p> Assuming that, as the Marshal levels, it gets more options of where it can apply that bonus each round, sure. </p><p>I think it'd be preferable to let the player choose what it gives a bonus to, at 1st. An initiative bonus is significant, but it might fell like "doing nothing" the rest of the encounter.</p><p></p><p> I assume this is Ki-point powered? Or, no, this is 'Marshal Arts, right.</p><p></p><p>It might make more sense, if you're going to give the 5e version of the Marshal something more active than the an Aura, to make the active power an Action, that includes a Bonus Action Attack? </p><p></p><p>OK, clearly not for at-will Marshal Arts, but for the Ki Point equivalents, it might make sense.</p><p></p><p> Pecedent exists in 5e for Concentration on an at-will ability: most relevantly, in this case, the +1d4 Guidance cantrip.</p><p>It'd also mean that, if the DM kicked off an ambush with a surprise attack to the Marshal, they could negate the initiative bonus.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7890928, member: 996"] No one just "had two attacks" in 4e or 3e. But, in the Marshal's native 3e everyone with the BAB for it got iterative attacks, the distinction was BAB progression, full, 3/4, or 1/2. The only 3/4 BAB class to get Extra Attack in 5e is the Monk - and, that's the template we're using. So not a total non-sequitor. Likewise, neither the Marshal nor the Monk heal others, nor is the Monk at all a support class (it's generally been a striker or "5th wheel") and, given the choice to build a 5e Marshal using the Monk as template - both made before the thread went public - it just didn't seem like healing could be too important a priority. Assuming that, as the Marshal levels, it gets more options of where it can apply that bonus each round, sure. I think it'd be preferable to let the player choose what it gives a bonus to, at 1st. An initiative bonus is significant, but it might fell like "doing nothing" the rest of the encounter. I assume this is Ki-point powered? Or, no, this is 'Marshal Arts, right. It might make more sense, if you're going to give the 5e version of the Marshal something more active than the an Aura, to make the active power an Action, that includes a Bonus Action Attack? OK, clearly not for at-will Marshal Arts, but for the Ki Point equivalents, it might make sense. Pecedent exists in 5e for Concentration on an at-will ability: most relevantly, in this case, the +1d4 Guidance cantrip. It'd also mean that, if the DM kicked off an ambush with a surprise attack to the Marshal, they could negate the initiative bonus. [/QUOTE]
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