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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6745826" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I've long held that the correct term for the concept frequently called warlord or marshall is "Fighter".</p><p></p><p>It's simply the "smart fighter" or "charismatic fighter" archetype. It's a bad idea because it silos away from the fighter abilities that should be part of the fighter's core idea. Every fighter eventually should reach a point when they are no longer just a grunt on the field, but a legitimate leader of men in battle. The concept of a warlord or marshal is simply a fighter that is especially good at that, even at low level. It should be a fighter subclass, plus a few feats available to enhance anyone that wants to take that 'battle leader' sort of role.</p><p></p><p>Incidentally, I like 'Battle Leader', 'Captain', 'Commander', and 'Marshal'. To master battle is not the same as leading in one, or over others. Commander is the most appropriate modern analogue, but in the middle ages the word Captain would have been preferred as the term applied to the leader of any band of men and was much less of a formal rank. The retention of the usage is seen in the captain of a sports team, particular when the captain is elected or chosen rather than appointed. Marshall is fine as well, although it applies as much to the idea of bringing men to a battle than to leading them in it, it also applies to being the leader (hense the term 'Field Marshal'). Much more than 'Captain' though, I think Marshal implies rank. A leader of bandits could claim to be their captain, and would even be accepted as entitled to the title because it merely means leader and not a rank. I don't think the same idea is true of the word Marshal. A self-titled captain is still a captain. But a self-titled general is pretentious. So Commander and Captain are better than Marshal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6745826, member: 4937"] I've long held that the correct term for the concept frequently called warlord or marshall is "Fighter". It's simply the "smart fighter" or "charismatic fighter" archetype. It's a bad idea because it silos away from the fighter abilities that should be part of the fighter's core idea. Every fighter eventually should reach a point when they are no longer just a grunt on the field, but a legitimate leader of men in battle. The concept of a warlord or marshal is simply a fighter that is especially good at that, even at low level. It should be a fighter subclass, plus a few feats available to enhance anyone that wants to take that 'battle leader' sort of role. Incidentally, I like 'Battle Leader', 'Captain', 'Commander', and 'Marshal'. To master battle is not the same as leading in one, or over others. Commander is the most appropriate modern analogue, but in the middle ages the word Captain would have been preferred as the term applied to the leader of any band of men and was much less of a formal rank. The retention of the usage is seen in the captain of a sports team, particular when the captain is elected or chosen rather than appointed. Marshall is fine as well, although it applies as much to the idea of bringing men to a battle than to leading them in it, it also applies to being the leader (hense the term 'Field Marshal'). Much more than 'Captain' though, I think Marshal implies rank. A leader of bandits could claim to be their captain, and would even be accepted as entitled to the title because it merely means leader and not a rank. I don't think the same idea is true of the word Marshal. A self-titled captain is still a captain. But a self-titled general is pretentious. So Commander and Captain are better than Marshal. [/QUOTE]
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